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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:07 AM
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The Leaders of the Left seem unwilling to fight for anything
tricked by the Right into feeling aggression in ANY form is bad, I have seen this said here too. What has the Left stood & fought for? Medicare for all? No. Single payer? No. Impeachment? No. Enforcing the rule of law? No. Protecting the Constitution? No. Keeping college education within reach of the majority? No. Even when it comes time to fight for themselves, many seem more willing to step down, step aside, than fighting.

The voters now realize this, they see it all too clearly.

I believe America is worth fighting for, not "over there", but here where it's under attack. I believe acting as a team & working in lockstep to protect our food & reinforce the FDA is worth standing my ground & not budging, no matter what, tirelessly reintroducing meaningful legislation, endlessly. I believe the Patriot Act gave our leaders the legal authority to end the banksters economic destructive acts-now.

I know it's worth fighting all-out to extend Medicare for all, it's worth catching up with the rest of the developed world, it's worth standing in lockstep, holding the floor for as long as it takes, to make Americans equal to the rest of the developed world.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:09 AM
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1. Thank you
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:18 AM
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2. Thanx keep it close to the top
please
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:20 AM
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3. The two party system is unfixable
It is the Jerry Springer show. The Democrats creep further and further to the right.

The Democratic party is timid and submissive and toothless. All the GOP has to do is yell real loud and the Dems capitulate every time.

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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:28 AM
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5. you've revealed the heart of the root of every problem we've got, now
let's hope it gets corrected.......somehow.


Can we shame Obama? He is not representing us in those meetings over healthcare.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:35 AM
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8. It's all about money!
As long as big corporations such as the banks, wall street firms, insurance companies, etc. can pump billions into "buying" votes in congress, nothing will change no matter how many parties we have. If we could put a stop to all that money coming from those groups that want to put profits ahead of everything else, we might be able to do something. The problem is the ones who can make that happen are the members of congress who are in the pockets of those groups, and they aren't about to change things.

If we want "real" change it has to start in congress. Any president can want changes made, but without congress backing them, it won't happen. It's the leadership in "both" branches of congress that need to be replaced, and then any other member who has taken huge amounts of money from groups and then voted against the people, and for those groups!
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:52 AM
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9. did they get money out of politics in Europe? If so, bring those people here
they can repeat here what they did there.


Do the same with those that passed Universal Healthcoverage over there, bring them here. We NEED people to help us.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:30 PM
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14. Yep.
But all we can do is try and get good people to run against the crooks we have now, and hope they can make a difference. Sadly that's not an easy job!
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:25 AM
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4. kickers
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:30 AM
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6. You said it
The left is afraid to fight. Maybe it is because in the end, given that justice prevails eventually, we will win?

Or are the left just a bunch of chickenshits?

Sometimes I wonder.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:32 AM
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7. not quite..
They seem perfectly willing to "fight" for the right to keep trying to be "bipartisan".. Now... if only they could convince their "dear friends across the aisle" to quit stabbing them in the back every time they turn around..
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:59 AM
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10. kick
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:27 PM
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11. Agreed. k&r n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:43 PM
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12. kicking it up
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:12 PM
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13. more to be
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:31 PM
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15. K&R....
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 04:07 AM
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16. thanks, one more?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 04:32 AM
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17. The leaders of the left live comfy lives like the leaders of the right
They spend most of their time in two cities. They have no clue what the rest of the country is like, nor do they care.

They are as invested in the current system as much as the leaders of the right. The quicker people wake up to that idea, the better off we all will be.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 04:50 AM
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18. I had no idea that the Democratic Party were the leaders of the Left.
The only even center-left politicians I see in the Democratic Party are Kucinich and Sanders--oh wait, yeah, not Sanders. :) In any European country, our "left" would be on the right. The largest leftist organizations in the US are the Green Party, the ISO (International Socialist Organization), the PSL (Party for Solidarity and Labor), WWP (Workers World Party), and a few others (like the RCP, who are rather separate from the others, who do work together.) Of those organizations, the ISO is probably the largest (although perhaps the youngest) with over 1000 members a large number of whom are trained cadre. Many of these groups have close connections with other leftist organizations around the world: Chavez (and his left opposition), the Anti-Capitalist Party in France, Socialist Alternative in Australia, MAS in Bolivia, RAWA in Afghanistan, etc.

Yes, I know, all those groups are "crazy" and "extremists" and not "real alternatives." Still, they are running much of the leftist activism in this country... Without them, you can bet your buttons the Democratic Party would (as if it were even imaginable) be further to the right.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 06:52 AM
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19. K & R
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