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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:47 AM
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Do you still have the audacity to hope?
(I wonder if those words were meant to mean something.)
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:50 AM
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1. Yes.
And yes. How soon we forget just how bad things were.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:51 AM
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4. Just how bad things are was one reason to hope for more than we've been given.
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el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:52 AM
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5. Well in fairness we have gotten more than we got under Bush
and what we might have expected under McCain.

Bryant
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:53 AM
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10. Maybe that's the hope part. Where the fuck's the audacity?
I don't see it. I haven't seen it since before Inauguration Day.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:04 PM
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23. If you let campaign propaganda rule your thought processes, you're going to be disappointed forever.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:16 PM
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29. How about if I let the action of people in power rule my thought processes about whether to support
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 12:59 PM by BurtWorm
them or not? For example, if I am led to believe there will be significant health care reform for a full year and we wind up having the most significant aspect of health care reform exploded by a single disgruntled asshole from CT, does that not entitle me to wonder why the president is acting like such a wimp?
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:25 PM
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31. Yup, that is what we've been reduced to...
better than Bush, probably better than McCain.

Of course, a box of rocks in the Oval Office meets that criteria.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:03 PM
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21. Well, we've gotten about what I expected.
Which is why I don't get the fury. I want much more, but I knew what we were getting with Obama.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:52 AM
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6. were? How about "still are"?
Good thing Obama has the Bush boogie man. Doesn't fly with me.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:01 PM
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18. Well, I've posted many of the changes that have occurred since Obama became president.
For some reason those are ignored so people can pretend that things are just as bad.

That's crap.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:34 PM
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32. Those "changes" you posted fall flat.
When Obama continues Bush's war, we get a shit Healthcare Reform Bill, the corporations and banks are running just as rampant as they were under Bush, etc.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:52 AM
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7. OMG! They haven't gotten better - WORSE for the troops and the people.
The only people who are benefitting are the corporate crones within the MIC and Wall Street.

The Big LIE: We're living it NOW. :grr:
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:02 PM
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20. Thanks for the BS.
Try to pay attention.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:12 PM
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26. Back at ya!
:P
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:50 AM
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2. Nope. I have the audacity to realize that the American People have been DUPED.
P.T. Barnum rolls over in his grave in salute of the Obama Administration.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:03 PM
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22. I would say that you duped yourself.
Obama comes as advertised.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:13 PM
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28. No, many people were duped and that's why he's got ONE term ... that is all. eom
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:51 AM
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3. Thankfully I never did
although I really hoped to have to eat my words. No chance of that now.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:53 AM
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11. nor did I though I didn't think he would be as horrible as he is
turning out to be.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:08 PM
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24. Me too jonny!
I just heard too many pretty words encased in rainbows (NOT gay rainbows of course) and bunnies and unicorns. I never have trusted that kind of stuff. All you had to do was remain out of the sway and it was apparent he saw what was wanted and ran with it while never upholding those values. I can not fault the people who were enraptured, he is mighty good at that and we all needed something after the 8 years of horror. Still, it always pays to remove yourself when you feel the pull of the rockstar personality. I can fault the people who remain steadfast and justify every bad decision. Especially when they do it by demeaning people.
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:57 AM
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15. i'm sorry
but I don't think expecting a 'choice' in insurance is asking too much, especially if it is required to buy.

This stinks more of greedy little senators and their ego's

TERMS LIMITS FOR SENATORS NOW!

2 terms only, then get the fuck out

and thank you for your service to your country.

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:00 PM
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16. I had huge misgivings but voted for him anyway, hoping I was wrong. The moment he selected Rahm
I knew we were screwed.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:53 AM
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8. Yes
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:53 AM
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9. The audacity of dope n/t
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:53 AM
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12. They want us to give up
We've all got to keep fighting and harder than ever to overcome the corporate tyranny our government has become. It's easier to fight this stuff while we are all still free.

-90% jimmy
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:55 AM
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14. Who wants us to give up?
It's beginning to look like the Obama people.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:54 AM
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13. Whatever hopes I had are being buried in Afghanistan.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:02 PM
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19. Mine was when he selected his consiglieri and when he went to court
to uphold Shrub's administration's position on the telecoms, the toll of the bell sounded, loud and clear.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:00 PM
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17. Just threw up a little in my mouth.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:09 PM
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25. Yeah, I hope we get the fuck rid of Obama in 2012.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:12 PM
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27. The "audacity"? Yes.
The gullibility? Not so much.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:18 PM
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30. Yep -
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