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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:18 PM
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Poll question: If Obama was to be an one-term President - who would you want in the 2012 primary?
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 12:26 PM by Hawkeye-X
If Obama fails to do his job, he promised if the health care reform bombs he'd stake his entire Presidency to it (and it's looking like it's going to be a bomb)

Who would you want in the primary?

I'm balancing both spectrums of left and right of the left.

Hawkeye-X
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:21 PM
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1. Anyone who'd want those corporatists you list should be fine with Obama.
I'd have used the space for Grayson, Weiner and Franken (the three wise men).
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:23 PM
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5. If they're all corporatists, why do you have Dean as your icon? nt
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:54 PM
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15. Never said they were all corporatists.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:13 PM
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19. I don't see Kucinich as a corporatist
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:26 PM
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22. Sorry, I wasn't clear. Not ALL of them are corporatists, and certainly not DK
But Bayh, Clinton and Douche-who-must-not-be-named? Yeah.


PS: Why aren't you using your Dean avatar? ;)
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:22 PM
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2. grayson/feingold 2012.
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 12:22 PM by dysfunctional press
or...

feingold/grayson 2012.

let them decide the order and get back to us.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:23 PM
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4. OH, damn. He left off Feingold?
Polling FAIL.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:26 PM
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6. Corrected it.
:evilgrin:

Took out Baucus and replaced with Feingold.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:31 PM
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8. You could also replace Evan Bayh
Try 'A Lump of Dried Snot'. That should get about as many votes. ;)
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captnearl Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:52 PM
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13. 2012 elections
Those would be fine as long as Feingold no's which country he represents.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:39 PM
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24. i'd just like to see him 'no' the current senate bill.
:evilgrin:
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:56 PM
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27. why, because he's a joo?
:eyes:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:22 PM
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3. Oh... and Bernie Sanders wouldn't need a primary since he's not a Democrat.
I'd LOVE to see Bernie run -- especially if the Teabaggers run their own candidate.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:38 PM
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11. Now that could be an interesting 4 way race
John Anderson made a dent in the 1980 numbers, and Perot was even leading the 1992 race for a while (before he dropped out and then back in. But that was all before the complete corruption of the election process from the whore media to the corporate financing to the electro-fraud machines.

Public anger across the political spectrum could fuel third and fourth party challenges, but would it be enough to overcome the rigged corporate game?

For the record though, I'd go with Howard Dean, and put Bernie in as Senate Majority Leader.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:53 PM
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14. Except Bernie can't be Senate Majority Leader
Still not a Democrat.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:11 PM
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17. There's a silver lining in that cloud though
If Bernie can't be majority leader, neither can Lieberdouche. And you know the DLC wishes they could put his pathetic ass in there. ;)

OK then.... Russ Feingold as Senate Majority Leader. Or Barbara Boxer.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:16 PM
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21. Wait... we CAN have Bernie Sanders as Majority Leader
We just need to elect 50 more Socialists. :D

I'm in!

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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:29 PM
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7. Who voted for Evan Bayh??!!
:wtf:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:32 PM
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9. No shit. I wouldn't trust that moron to clean my toilet.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:33 PM
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10. Voted for Dean, but I was tempted to vote for Bayh. After all, if we have corporatism...
then I'd rather it be represented by a dislikable shit head like Bayh than a person who appeals to people like Obama does.
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:39 PM
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12. What is the difference between Obama, Clinton, Bayh and Lieberman?
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 12:58 PM
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16. Hard to say
I like Howard Dean, Dennis Kucinich, Bernie Sanders, and Russ Feingold fine. My favorites would be Feingold or Sanders.

The DLC-types can go right to hell. I'm through with them.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:13 PM
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18. No love for DK?
:spank:
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:15 PM
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20. I supported Dean in 2004. I would gladly support him again in the future, 2012 or otherwise. n/t
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DonkeyHoTay Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:57 PM
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40.  :-)
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LastNaturalist Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:28 PM
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23. Chuck Hagel.
Alright now comes the barrage...
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:41 PM
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25. Alan Keyes!
:eyes:
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LastNaturalist Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:00 PM
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30. Because they're the same person!
:eyes:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:27 PM
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36. They might as well be.
Advocating for either one should put you outside of DU's "big tent".

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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:46 PM
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26. He could actually win
...since his company ES&S just bought Diebold and now controls the majority of the electro-fraud machines.

No, he wouldn't actually get the most votes. But that didn't stop him in Nebraska.
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LastNaturalist Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:01 PM
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31. Wow, you need to come back to Planet Earth.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:09 PM
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33. I'm on Planet Earth
You're on planet DLC NeverNeverland where up is down, war is peace, corporatism is democracy, and Chuck Hagel is an "honest man".
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TiberiusGracchus Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:57 PM
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28. Howard Dean/Jim Webb 2012
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 01:58 PM
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29. How the hell could anyone vote for Lieberman?
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:28 PM
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37. I think that was done as a joke n/t
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:01 PM
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32. If it came to that I would *want* Dean but vote for Hillary
If Obama is deposed as the nominee in 2012 or stepped down it would be a "lost year" where the pugs were very likely to retake the WH.

In such an environment I doubt Dean could win. We are talking about a situation where a Dem holding the WH would be a serious long-shot.

I love Howard Dean, but would rather, as a practical matter, that it were Hillary.

Essentially Dean for President, Clinton for Nominee.

This is all highly hypothetical, of course.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:12 PM
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34. How would Hillary be an improvement?
I don't see where she would do anything better than what we have now. In fact, this is actually what I would have expected from a Clinton II administration.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:21 PM
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35. Dean, Kucinich or Feingold. Dean is probably the most electable. I will not vote for Obama again.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:51 PM
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38. Obama is going to run again no matter what.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:57 PM
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39. It's a tough call between Estes Kefauver and Adlai Stevenson
Although apparently Kefauver is big on censoring comic books, so I'm gonna go with Stevenson. This Kennedy guy might make a good VP candidate.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:58 PM
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41. I love DK/Sanders/Feingold but realistically Dean would be the best choice.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 05:57 PM
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43. Dean or Kucinich
I'd prefer DK but voted for Dean on the grounds that he's vaguely electable.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 06:21 PM
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44. Oh. You mean "one term" based on the Dem Party denying a sitting Dem president a nomination.
I thought "one term" meant losing to the Rethug.
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