NightWatcher
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:20 PM
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Poll question: Will you work as hard for the Democrats in 2010 / 2012 as you did in the '08 election? |
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Sure, most of us will vote for the Democratic candidates in 2010 and 2012 when faced with a vile repuke on teh other side of the ballot, but will we volunteer, donate, knock on doors, phone bank, and spend the time, money, and effort that we did to get Obama and an overwhelming majority of Democrats elected like we did back in 2007 and 2008?
Unless things really change for the good during the Obama Administration, will you put forth the effort you did in 2008?
There's no need to flame, I just want to take a measurement of Activist Apathy.
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:21 PM
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1. Depends on what happens in the next 10 months, but at this point, no. |
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The majority of Dems have not earned my vote or support. Only Kucinich, Sanders, Dean, etc. have. Pelosi, Reid, Obama, etc. have no place in the public sphere.
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:22 PM
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2. Depends on whether or not Obama consciously redeems himself... |
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...and, if not, whether we have a populist primary challenger in 2012.
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:22 PM
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collect some money for wimps!
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:23 PM
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4. one thing do we really need to see Repigs in charge again. |
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I am voting Dem but not giving as many donations I gave before.
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:23 PM
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5. Work as hard as Howard Dean, Andy Stern and SEIU did just to have our |
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dearest healthcare reform wishes betrayed and watch our president pander to folks who campaigned for the opposing team?
WHY THE FUCK WOULD ANYONE DO THAT AGAIN?
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Thu Dec-17-09 02:04 PM
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20. Don't pity the poor SEIU. |
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They sold out single payer and started out w/ a limited public option to get in bed w/ Pres. Obama as ammunition in their rivalry w/ the AFL-CIO. They also threw out the California Nurses union for not firing their pro- single payer leadership. In return they got, among other things, their choice for Labor Sec'y, regular publicly reported mtgs. w/ the President for the first few months of the Presidency while the AFL-CIO was visibly snubbed.
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Thu Dec-17-09 02:13 PM
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23. They're STILL on Dean's side arguing for stronger reform and AGAINST pandering to Joe |
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Thu Dec-17-09 03:09 PM
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26. They're the reason the AFL-CIO didn't dare run ads for single payer |
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or call on their membership to lobby Congress for it even though the annual convention voted for it.
Stern allowed Pres. Obama to designate a "good" labor organization and a "dangerous" organization, and have the WH and Congress claim to have labor support for torpedoing single payer from the git-go. The SEIU also bought DailyKos' stance on this w/ enormous advertising. The switch came overnight exactly when the SEIU ads showed up all over the site.
There are even more serious issues w/ SEIU's representation of its members who work in the nursing home industry. Problems w/ no-strike, almost no-grievance contracts that amount to behaving like a "company union".
I'd remember what unionization is like in Mexico, where the unions rubberstamp whatever the established center-left political party wants, no matter how corrupt or how it affects the membership, before holding the SEIU up as a shining example of anything.
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:24 PM
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I already ever donate money. I didn't in 2008. I have phone-banked before. I know I am not voting for Dodd no matter how good things get. It's time for him to go. I will wait and see what happens. Not sure who I will vote for in Dodd's race. Not the repuke. But not Dodd.
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:24 PM
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7. There isn't a "Hell fucking NO!" option? |
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I will support individual candidates who I feel offer something of benefit to me. Boxer, Feingold, Grayson, Sanders, etc. But no more money to any Democratic organization that could possibly be distributed to the likes of Landrieu, and all the other trouble makers. NO WAY!
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:27 PM
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8. It honestly depends on what health care bill is finally signed into law. |
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If all we get is a handout to the insurance companies like the bank bailouts were absolutely not. No way in hell.
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:29 PM
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9. No, I think it's time to let the DLC die on the vine. |
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Of course, if we're really as irrelevant as they say we are, it shouldn't matter if we don't vote for them.
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:29 PM
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10. yes, but only because I worked for Greens after the primaries.... |
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Don't blame me. I didn't vote for him. :rofl:
Seriously though, it was clear from the point during the primaries when the race was down to Clinton vs Obama that neither outcome was going to be especially progressive. I vowed in 2002 to never again vote for the lessor evil if the candidate did not represent what I considered the best interests of the United States.
In 2012? I will happily work for a progressive democratic primary challenger, but if the party runs another centrist, I'll look elsewhere, as usual.
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:29 PM
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11. Definitely too early to tell right now, especially considering the last couple weeks. |
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:30 PM
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I may file a blank ballot.
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:31 PM
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I'll be donating all my money to my new Healthcare Defense Fund.
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:32 PM
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14. I never have worked for Democrats. |
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I work for individual candidates. All I did for Obama was a couple of hours of phone banking, because I didn't trust him. However, I spent many, many hours working for Diane Benson, both in 2006 and 2008.
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:32 PM
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15. Absolutely, positively NOT! |
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:33 PM
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16. When, and if, they ever start working for us..I'll consider it. |
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:33 PM
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17. This is a perfect indication of why Democrats lose. |
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They no longer stand for anything. The people rightly don't trust them and their "opponents" know that they will buckle at the first sign of resistance.
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:44 PM
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18. IF they improve a great deal over the next year(s), maybe. But as of now, they have earned |
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absolutely NO support from me. No canvassing. No GotV effort. No dollars. No votes. They have proven that they do not listen when we talk to them about what we do or do not like. Only action may possibly have any effect.
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Thu Dec-17-09 01:59 PM
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19. Depends on the Democrat. |
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For the ones in Washington now? No.
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Thu Dec-17-09 02:06 PM
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21. Not for Obama or any other DLC candidate. |
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Thu Dec-17-09 02:09 PM
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22. Of course.... I would rather have a Democrat than a Repub in any office |
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Thu Dec-17-09 02:16 PM
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24. In primaries and worthy generals |
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It depends on the candidates, really. In the case of the corporate-friendly, centrist Dems, no, I don't think I'll be lifting a finger for them.
I'll also not be donating to the House and Senate campaign funds this time around. They always spend that money on the worst of people.
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Thu Dec-17-09 02:17 PM
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...donate to any of them (let the bankers, WS and the HICs pay for their campaigns and such) and I will not canvas door to door to make sure that people are registered and tout the Democratic Party as the party that does not capitulate to special interests.
Seems those in office now have totally stabbed me in the back so I might work against any of the incumbents since they will only 'Stay the Course' if elected to office again...
Still, my vote goes to Democrat, even if it is the same backstabbing SOB that screwed me over..
We desperately need a viable 3rd Party
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Thu Dec-17-09 03:14 PM
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27. I won't even vote for a DLC candidate |
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Or one that runs on a non-Democratic platform, even if they won't admit to being a DLC'er.
And Tim Kaine's neutered DNC will not get a fucking penny from me.
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