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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:31 PM
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Presenting: Fundie Quote of the Day. # 6 And a new word, also.
Not quite...coherent.


"If you are a theist and that you believe in God and also in evolution, I say that this is incoherent with nature. God do not contradict himself. This is the proof evolution is wrong."


http://www.georgehutchins.com/
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:33 PM
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1. I'd like to see that person try proving anything.
What a nonsensical statement.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:33 PM
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2. These people MUST NOT BE ALLOWED to make our laws!
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:36 PM
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3. These people should not be allowed to reproduce,
Think of the generations yet to come
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:38 PM
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4. God does not contradict, but he subcontracts.
He gave the hard work of creation to the evolutionary process.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:39 PM
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5. Reduction to logic stmt.

A and B are both true.

However, If A then not B and if B then not A.

Therefore, A is true and B is false.

QED.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:45 PM
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7. You forgot C, the Bronze Age creation myth.
A and B are both true for educated believers. C is false.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:55 PM
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11. Actually it's a accurate reduction of his logic argument.
Obviously it isn't true.

The only conclusion is that one of A or B isn't true.

I can test for B (evolution). I don't know how to test for A (existence of God).
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:59 PM
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15. Since for him, A=C
Then the part that is untrue is A.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:41 PM
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6. God should look into better press agents. And, accountants, seeing as how he's always broke.
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:58 PM
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22. "The God I worship ain't short 'a cash, mister!"
Paul "Bono" Hewson, lead singer of U2, from the Rattle & Hum album - commenting on "The Olde Time Gospel Hour - stealing money from the sick and the old."
At 5.00 in this clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J2uYVdC6S4
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:49 PM
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8. All you theist are belong to us
that is seriesly incoherent.

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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:50 PM
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9. Read the teabagger's manifesto:
""The November 4, 2008 U.S. President Election, to include ALL North Carolina state elections of 2008,  was the ALAMO of the U.S. Republican Party in North Carolina, and the ALAMO of the U.S. Republican Party Nationwide !!! "

"During the 2008 U.S. Elections, as a Campaign STAFF member, of the FRED SMITH for North Carolina Governor Campaign during the NC Republican Primary, a volunteer for the U.S. Senator ELIZABETH DOLE Campaign, and Veterans For John MCCAIN MEMBER, I FOUGHT with all legal methods to STOP Obama - Nation."

"As I was FIGHTING 'Obama - Nation' in 2008, Fence-Riders and FAKE Republican RINO'S Ran for their lives, while these same FAKE Republican RINO'S attempted to silent my Honorable Efforts." 

"In addition to MASS VOTING FRAUD, it was these same RINO'S, and same Fence-Riders, which caused the Republicans to lose big during the 2008 elections, in both, North Carolina, and Nationwide."

"These same Fence-Riders and same RINO'S, while UNJUSTLY claiming to be Conservatives, FALSELY believed 'Obama Supporters' would also vote for them, or the Republican Candidate, which they supported, in North Carolina, during 2008.""

:crazy: :crazy:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:52 PM
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10. As a person who loosely believes in theistic evolution, I say this in rebuttal


(And by "loosely believes" I mean that your average theistic evolutionist believes that there is a God and that he/she/it used evolution to create all we see. As a loose follower I "believe" in evolution and think that maybe there is a god who might have been involved in kicking it off. Maybe.)
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:59 PM
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14. Gee...that is what I said in response, too.
:rofl:
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:57 PM
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12. That web site is a little frightening.
It's a window into a very fucked up mind.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 02:57 PM
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13. dupe/delete
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 02:58 PM by Fridays Child
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:01 PM
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16. Evolution is god's way to prevent everything from happening at once.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:20 PM
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17. thanks, dixiegrrrl--missed #5--the brain reels at what passes for mental processing in these people
did they ALL flunk standard english?

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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:39 PM
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20. they are parsimonious with vowels and constantants....and meaning.
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 03:42 PM by dixiegrrrrl
:rofl:
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:37 PM
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24. Here is #5 for ya:
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flakey_foont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:28 PM
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18. yikes! Oh My Dog!!!
This guy belongs on Mystery Science Theatre 3000. Does he sell used cars?

This is the proof that evolution is wrong? So simple....
those phony dinosaur bones....
those bogus carbon dating techniques...

maiks prefect cents
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:33 PM
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19. Oh for the love of color: If I didn't have it the website would
give me a rabid headache.
And if I did not like to laugh so much - the quote would make me cry for my country and the people who have to live with and tolerate such illiteracy in spirit and expression.

Now:

is that meant to be "atheist" or "a theist"?
Not if it would make sense either way, but I need to know how loud to laugh.

Thanks again
Recommended so others have a burst of hilarity.

Lighten up folks, we already know they are here and walking amongst us.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 03:47 PM
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21. Hoo! :-)
This is the first laugh out loud I've had all day. And God do know how much needing I was.

Thanks :-)
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 04:01 PM
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23. a new spin on the reductio ad absurdum fallacy!
:rofl:




and i beg to differ, incoherence and self-contradiction is at the very heart of theism and religion. god is both night and day, alpha and omega. there are conflicting stories throughout the bible, starting right up front with two creation stories in genesis.

sociologically, i would even argue that this incoherence and self-contradition is a fundamental component of the broad appeal of religion. it enables a religion to provide comforting answers to a wider range of questions.

when an evil villain dies in a hurricane, god smote him down because he was wicked.
when a pious and righteous loved one dies in the same hurricane, god wanted him by his side.
when you just don't know what to make of what happened, the lord moves in mysterious ways.

the notion that hurricanes simply happen and anyone caught in the wrong place at the wrong time dies, having nothing to do much else, coherent and non-contradictory, but lacks the sort of spiritual comfort people need when dealing with the aftermath.

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