Quixote1818
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:31 PM
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So, why won't Bush let go of Gonzales? |
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Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 11:34 PM by Quixote1818
There must be some really good reason they are scared shitless to drop him. Is Bush afraid someone new will come in and see all the shit that is going on and think "Woahhhh! I ain't gonna get involved with that shit! Hey everyone look at what these fuckers are up to!"
Or is it something else?
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:32 PM
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1. why loyalty of course... |
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:33 PM
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2. I think "Speedy" has known Bushy Boy long enough.... |
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....to have some serious shit on him. Plus, Bushy Boy doesn't want to look like he's giving up too easy.
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:37 PM
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4. I think he has shit on Dubba |
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:34 PM
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:38 PM
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5. Because Bush is never wrong ... |
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Bush is never wrong. He trusts his gut, not his eyes and ears.
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:55 PM
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13. This is what I think: Cutting him loose, especially now, would be |
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tantamount to admitting a mistake. And that simply cannot happen.:eyes:
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:38 PM
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6. Speculation is that Gonzo knows where all the bodies |
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are buried going all the way back to Texas and his governor days.
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:44 PM
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7. Because he's unable to admit another gross error in judgement. |
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Too fucking late for that.
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:46 PM
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is going to tell the boy king what to do.
He's the decider.
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Sun Apr-22-07 09:20 AM
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:47 PM
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9. It all has to do with loyalty over competence |
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:47 PM
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10. Eh, who knows. They sure seem to be drawing a line on this. |
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My gut says the Rove contingent has decided to circle the wagons, and this is part of an overall stonewall showdown with a Democratic Congress. It seems to fit their mind set.
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:50 PM
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11. I figured it was what gonzo knows |
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but i like what you said "Woahhhh! I ain't gonna get involved with that shit! Hey everyone look at what these fuckers are up to!"
:rofl:
I do suspect, though that gonzo got him out of many more scrapes than that one dui, and the shit could REALLY hit the fan if there is a flat-out obstruction of justice in his past - like a covered up hit and run or something
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:53 PM
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12. Because Gonzo will find ways around the Constitution and is willing to do anything illegal to give |
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Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 11:57 PM by GreenTea
more power and find new ways to give Bush (executive branch) more power...Gonzales is just another Bush criminal and has been doing this shit with Bush when he was Guv of Texas...They both love & lust sending people to their death (they hold the record for executions in this country)...They adore killing & torture and Gonzo finds ways around the law to do it...He's just part of this whole lying greedy sick criminal Bush power hungry crime family...and Bush stands by his loyal criminals like Gonzo Cheney & Rove...without them he's lost!!!
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Sun Apr-22-07 09:38 AM
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27. Precisely. Exactly. And in good, blunt language. This is THE truth about Bush, Inc. |
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Psychopathic killers. Leopold and Loeb thrill-killers writ large.
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Sun Apr-22-07 09:58 AM
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28. Exactly, perfectly stated. |
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Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 10:07 AM by LaPera
These really are people who love ONLY money & power and truly love to kill and torture people.
BushCo will go down lying to the end, demanding and insisting they are Christians. And people will believe them, simply because they say it, however, actions speak louder than words.
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:58 PM
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Sun Apr-22-07 12:00 AM
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What have the Democrats (or anyone else) ever had the guts to hold him accountable for?
One way or another, they've let Bush and the extreme right have almost every single thing that they've wanted!
Under the circumstances, if I were Bush (or if I thought like Bush) I essentially flip them the bird.
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Sun Apr-22-07 12:06 AM
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16. Gonzo's a gang member. |
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They don't have replacements for the Family.
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Sun Apr-22-07 12:06 AM
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Sun Apr-22-07 12:09 AM
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18. Well, his nickname is 'Fredo' |
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That tells you something about the relationship.
Then there's Turdblossom.
Interesting and strange that Bush demeans most those upon whom he depends most for covering up his past and indiscretions.
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Sun Apr-22-07 12:09 AM
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19. There is only one reason. |
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if he gets rid of him, he'll have to replace him with a nominee who can survive a democartic controlled Senate hearing. That means someone who actually wants to be an AG, not a traitor.
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Sun Apr-22-07 08:23 AM
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22. And, it is a complex reason at that. Just ask Scooter. |
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Assuming, like in the Nixon administration, Justice is being subverted for politics and to cover up crimes (perhaps some of the same ones still, like JFK, MLK, and RFK) and abuses of power, the last thing they want is for law enforcement to be applied to themselves. This administration has been able to operate above and outside the law because there is noone who will enforce the laws of the nation on the administration.
Just like with Iran-Contra, the President circumvented the law and his own AG did not stop it. Congress had to intervene.
Just like with Watergate, the President circumvented the law and his own AG did not stop it. Congress had to intervene.
And it is the same old Fraternity or extremist right-wingers in power now using the same tactics and committing the same crimes. They can only do this stuff if the nation's chief law enforcement officer is part of the Fraternity.
In a word, that is "corruption" of the rule of law. Changing the prosecuter could put an end to their corruption. Just ask Scooter.
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Sun Apr-22-07 10:07 AM
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31. Well we may as well be without anyway as the Justice Dept is in chaos and lacks the peoples' |
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Sun Apr-22-07 10:17 AM
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33. Wow- that's a good point. I wonder how many fingers Gonzales has in |
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the dyke right now? How many potential scandals is he helping to hide, and how many investigations is he helping to block? If he were replaced with someone committed to the country rather than GW Bush, that might be the end for the Bush Administration.
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Sun Apr-22-07 12:32 AM
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20. He loves him sooooooooo much! |
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Sun Apr-22-07 12:33 AM
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21. Fear of rejection like his war czar. (Hatch excluded). n/t |
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Sun Apr-22-07 08:39 AM
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23. Cuz Gonzo is doing exactly what bush wants him to do. |
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Sun Apr-22-07 09:09 AM
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24. They have convinced themselves the Dems will be emboldened if Gonzo leaves |
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Emboldened to go after other Bush hacks...maybe even Bush himself.
That's the cover story but I call BS. That is how the GOP operates but that is not how adults (aka democrats) operate. If we could get rid of the worst, get the government functional, discover and make a record of all the crimes and incompetence of this admin, that would be enought and we could then turn our attention to passing some legislation to start fixing this country.
If they keep stonewalling us on crap like this, keeping Gonzo in office while it is painfully clear to anyone paying attention (which appears to be 80% of this country) the effect will be, even on adults, is it makes us madder.
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Sun Apr-22-07 09:18 AM
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Sun Apr-22-07 10:04 AM
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although Shrub is an insult to 3 yr olds everywhere.
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Sun Apr-22-07 10:00 AM
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29. Easiest answer in the world ... National Guard and DUI Records |
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Who was involved in both fixes?
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Marr
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Sun Apr-22-07 10:12 AM
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32. Because authoritarians cannot admit to mistakes. Breaks the illusion. |
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Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 10:13 AM by Marr
It goes with all that flahy political theater they're known for. Authoritarians build and maintain a cult of personality, and admitting errors does not fit into the mythos.
I don't think this is anything Bush himself has actually thought through- I think it's simply part of his character.
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Sun Apr-22-07 10:21 AM
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1) A replacement would have to be approved by Congress. This means that * would lose a stooge willing to permit such gems as legalizing torture and manipulating the judicial system.
2) Image. He's increasingly being faced with a government that does not give him a blank check, and he has been digging his heels into the dirt. If he surrenders on this, he fears that even higher figures will come next.
3) Why wouldn't he led go of Gonzales? He can't recall.
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Sun Apr-22-07 10:28 AM
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35. i expect they are waiting until bush is in more peril |
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then they'll turf gonzo and some underlings and claim to have 'cleaned house'
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