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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 07:21 PM
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Irrelevant, Irrational, Whiner, Childish, throwing a tantrum....
These are the talking points that have been thrown out against Howard Dean today. I guess the Democrats, while cowering to Republican rule for 8 years were actually studying their tactics. Get the talking points out there, make sure everyone is on the same page, then throw in a little fear mongering to cap the whole thing off.

Howard Dean is trying to save the party from themselves and from the wrath of the people and they are pissing on him in a way that should be reserved for people like Lieberman, who by the way, got some sort of APOLOGY directly from Obama yesterday, for what I have no fucking clue.

The last 48 hours have been eye opening to say the least. Did you ever think that a Democratic administration would go as far as just plainly using the Republican strategy playbook play for play? The talking points release, the fear mongering, the personal attacks on your political opponents? All of a sudden they are showing a spine and it's to stand up to Howard Fucking Dean?

You know many have been saying there is no difference left between the parties, and while there are a few true Democrats still around, the actions and organized attacks of the last couple days have shown me that for the most part it's true. Scary but true.

And the worst part of all of this is, I'm betting money they aren't done gutting this bill yet.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 07:23 PM
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1. It doesn't matter, if they don't reverse their direction, there will be consequences
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 07:24 PM
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2. Makes you wonder who was really behind the "Dean scream" b.s. nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 07:26 PM
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3. EARTH TO OBAMA: figure out who your friends are. Soon.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 07:38 PM
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7. +1 n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 07:48 PM
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10. +1


And a K&R to the OP.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 07:27 PM
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4. Dean is an honorary DFH..
DFHs are *always* in season for either party.

It would be irresponsible for the WH not to attack Dean..
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:02 PM
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11. DFH?
Dirty Fucking Hippie?
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:21 PM
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14. Yep, anyone to the left of Atilla the Hun is a DFH...
:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 12:13 AM
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17. LOL.
That's funny, Fumesucker. :)
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 07:27 PM
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5. Dean is no saint...
But the White House's decision that the progressive and liberal wings of the party are the real enemies is to say the least - telling.
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 07:31 PM
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6. At this point, if Obama criticizes something, it must be pretty much the truth.
Edited on Thu Dec-17-09 07:32 PM by branders seine
Nothing but sweet talk for Holy Joe; tea, crumpets and a new round of conspiracy with the bankers; nary a sign of leadership on the HCR process (with the exception of the address to the joint session during which he seemed to make lots of promises he has now flip flopped on), but Howard Dean is the enemy?

I call bullshit.

The only attacks the White House has made in a year have been against progressives--the same progressives who got his scrawny ungrateful ass elected in the first place.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 07:43 PM
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8. Dean and Bernie Sanders are the only ones telling it like it is..
All the while the Repugs are laughing it up and getting ready for the midterms next year.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 07:45 PM
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9. Hey brother... Don't forget Grayson
You in Singapore?
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:02 PM
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12. No thank goodness...
On my way back to OK tomorrow for the week. You were spoken fondly of last week. You know that Alex was back on the crew and Terri Cojanis showed up with her new English hubby. It was like old home week.

Back to the point it's a shame that so few of our so called representatives are willing to speak out against the insurance companies, the health care industry (what a disgusting term) and Big Pharma. Once again we're screwed and the fat cats get richer.

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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:29 PM
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16. Funny I was never spoken fondly of when I worked there.. LOL
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:14 PM
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13. What are you supposed to do to your opponents but attack them?

And when you have power, you not only attack, but attack and destroy.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 07:19 AM
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19. You mean he attacked and destroyed Liebermann, who campaigned against him?
When was that?
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:28 PM
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15. Dean is a MAN. The rest of them are MICE.
Period.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 03:26 AM
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18. ditto, nikki stone.
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