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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:24 PM
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Fire Robert Gibbs...Or At Least Make Him Apologize to Howard Dean



'Either Presidential Press Secretary Robert Gibbs went off the reservation and was not speaking for President Obama when he attacked Howard Dean's character and sanity for daring to criticize the Senate health "reform" bill which Obama wants passed; or more frighteningly, Gibbs was speaking for President Obama.

If Gibbs wasn't speaking for Obama, Gibbs should be fired, or at least called on the carpet by Obama and ordered to apologize publicly to Gov. Dean -- Gibbs went a long way towards alienating millions of people in the Democratic base who helped elect President Obama and who agree with Gov. Dean that a mandate to buy private insurance without, at a minimum, competition from a robust public option is bad policy and bad politics.

If however, Gibbs was speaking for President Obama, it appears that the White House has concluded it doesn't care about Obama's own base. In that case Obama's campaign promises for meaningful change are increasingly a pipe dream and Democratic prospects in the 2010 Congressional elections, and even in Obama's 2012 reelection campaign, are even more worrisome than it has seemed.'













http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/fire-robert-gibbsor-at-le_b_396339.html
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AndrewP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:26 PM
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1. Well, it was a fuck you to Dr. Dean, that is for sure.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:28 PM
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3. It was a fuck you to the whole liberal base of the Democratic party
it was a fuck you to the people who got Obama elected.

BIG mistake.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:28 PM
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2. Oh I think he was speaking for President Obama alright.... He wants this bill passed
no matter how bad it is and for whatever reason. I still think that much of the problem lies at Harry Reid's feet though.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:29 PM
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4. Reid was advised to accede to Lieberman by Rahm Emanuel
I blame Rahm and spineless dems.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:30 PM
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5. Yeah but Reid could have told Rahm, no... But hey, that would not have been his
spineless way.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:30 PM
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6. They'll get the message once the WH hires Dana Perino as press secretary.
Why not?

Bernanke's still around. No accountability.
Credit default swaps. No accountability.
Bush and Cheney walk free. No accountability.
Huge war escalation. No hope for peace.

War is peace. Ignorance is strength. Our govt. hates America.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:31 PM
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7. Sorry to say, but that would not surprise me at this point. n/t
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:32 PM
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10. a lost cause isnt it
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:32 PM
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8. The extreme overreaction towards Dean by the WH tells me they
know the bill as it stands is the kind of corporate sellout Dean claims, but its precisely the bill they really want.

You dont start an intra party war over a bill that isnt exactly what you've been working for.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:32 PM
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9. Spare me...Good thing Dean doesn't need a wahmbulance as much as his supporters
If so, he'd be the biggest basket case in politics.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:33 PM
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11. Indeed. n/t
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:54 PM
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15. insult him all you want...
it won't change the fact that mandates without choice will not go down well.

waa waa Howard Dean is crazy...boo hoo
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:57 PM
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16. It's his whiny-assed supporters I'm insulting...try reading next time
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 09:55 PM
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18. waa waa your gonna hurt me feelings
boo hoo hoo

:cry:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 03:11 AM
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21. remember that when your premiums triple. remember that a doctor
stood up and actually SPOKE ABOUT SOMETHING HE KNOWS.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:38 PM
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12. A serious white house would have refuted the points Dean made directly.
Name calling is pathetic.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:40 PM
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13. hah fat chance
they used Bush's talking points about Dean.

They have not shown one iota of interest in answering any of the legitimate questions asked of them.

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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:53 PM
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14. The White House is in disarray...
Its nice to see the White House finally gives a shit about something - but they got the wrong enemy. They should be going after Nelson, Lieberman, and the the rest of the grand standers.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 08:59 PM
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17. I now have Gibbs and others on ignore.
I've learned that they can lie, spin and bullshit as well as anyone and I was hoping for honesty and transparency with this administration. The nasty slams and spinning in relation to Dr., Gov., Chairman Dean have been too much.

Jeebus, my offspring are fed up. One cast his first vote for Obama and the middle one is disgusted...I think I'll have a difficult time getting them to attend rallies, meetings, hold signs at out precinct or on the street. They also get the sense that the WH and establishment don't give a shit about who's pissed and who they're losing. Oh well.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 10:01 PM
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19. Google Gibbs and follow the trail , he tried to swift boat Dean
He is a complete freak and should be tossed out now.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 12:20 AM
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20. Do not fire Gibbs - he's just the messenger
He was just echoing Rahm
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 03:27 AM
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22. You could say that Dean is not behaving in a manner becoming of a former Presidential candidate and
former Governor when he demands that the bill should be killed. I don't think Gibbs should be fired and I don't think he should apologize. Mr Dean needs to reassess his approach.
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