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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-17-09 11:19 PM
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Trumka: Senate Bill As Is Will Die In The House
The head of the most powerful union group in the country said on Thursday that the Senate version of the health care bill will not survive a vote in the House without substantial changes.

Richard Trumka, president of the AFL-CIO, told the Huffington Post that both he and his members are "extremely disappointed" with the compromises conservative Democrats extracted from Senate leaders. Rather than formally opposing the bill, he expressed confidence that it will change before passage

"If the Senate bill in its current form went to the House it would go down," he declared.

"I can tell you this," he added. "The plan as it currently is would not get much support from the American worker unless it is improved.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/17/trumka-senate-bill-as-is_n_396542.html

Would like to see the House be able to gain back some of the ground which has been conceded. Am still nervous about the ping pong option, though
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 02:41 AM
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1. Unions and union leaders and union members are the enemy of the Democratic Party!!!11!!!
Oh. Wait. Shit... Hmmm...
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Ildem09 Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 02:45 AM
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2. hahaa
Right on Trumpka is a Badass so is Andy Stern. under the bus in 3.....2.....1...
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 03:31 AM
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3. thank god for unions. i wonder if they can get it through their pin heads
that the massing of opposition is not a good sign, that maybe the bill sucks? Nah.
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 03:45 AM
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4. I'm pretty sure the House still has to vote through the conference report bill...
often a formality of the ping pong option, but maybe not in this case. I think. I hope. (I called my Progressive Caucus Rep to urge her to kill it w/o public option though, just in case a voice might make a difference.)
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 09:53 AM
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6. Everyone who has a Democratic rep needs to call
We know Republicans are in lockstep against any bill. Our Democrats need to hear we reject the ping ponging. We want this bill improved and they are the last slim hope. Thank you for doing your part. I know it feels futile but you never know.
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ThePhilosopher04 Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 05:17 AM
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5. Mary Landrieu will most certainly go down...
in Louisiana if this bill passes...she's on thin ice as it is in an extremely conservative state, and she'll lose folks like myself and my family who absolutely will abandon her...she has zero chance of winning.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 09:58 AM
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7. Nope...Unions Be Damned...
I hope the House gets another crack at this apple, but the push for passage is too strong. It's about "the game"...with this administration putting all its chips on the table to get some kind of bill passed and their hellbent on it happening. They have to...if this bill dies, it fufills DeMint's prediction of this being Obama's "Waterloo".

And where are the unions going to go? Support rushpublicans? Sit back and watch Democrats lose control of both houses? I'm appreciative of the AFL-CIO and SEIU coming forward, but too little too late on this front. A bill is going to pass...and the longer it takes the more watered down it'll be.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 11:23 AM
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9. Wouldn't it have been nice if they had put all their chips on the table before all the real refom
had been stripped. They could've. The fact that they didn't...Well...I don't like what I think that means
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 09:59 AM
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8. I think we all hope conference will modify the bill substantially
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 11:59 AM
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10. RIP...
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