Frank Cannon
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Fri Dec-18-09 08:08 AM
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So can Lieberman face a primary challenge in 2012? |
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Can someone else run against him in that "Connecticut for Lieberman" or "Fucknuts for the Gargly-voiced Munchkin" or whatever that ridiculous party he created is called?
Or does he get to go straight to the Senate election again?
There has got to be an organized and effective way to fire his sorry ass from the Senate, no matter how much money he gets from his corporate pimps.
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Pab Sungenis
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Fri Dec-18-09 08:13 AM
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1. He's already lost control of the "Connecticut for Lieberman" party. |
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My money is he'll just enter the Republican primary and be done with it.
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Fri Dec-18-09 08:15 AM
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3. "Connecticut for Lieberman" party? That group must be a bunch of dipshits of the first water! |
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Fri Dec-18-09 09:17 AM
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10. He may try to enter the republican party |
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but I doubt they trust him enough to allow him to become their nominee unless they decide to go for a throw-away election. My bet would be that the republicans will have someone they trust for their candidate. I hope the democrats have Lamont or someone they can actually trust. Hopefully Joe will be left out in the cold.
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Fri Dec-18-09 08:13 AM
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2. He cannot run for the nomination in Connecticut for Lieberman |
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A guy took over that party and passed a rule that Joe Lieberman can never be nominated by the party again.
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Smarmie Doofus
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Fri Dec-18-09 08:25 AM
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5. I think it was the Fairfield U professor who..... |
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... originally was going to challenge Lieberman as a DEM before Lamont showed up at the party.
(I'm not sure: has said professor since died?)
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Smarmie Doofus
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Fri Dec-18-09 08:22 AM
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4. Beating him in the DEM primary is not a problem. |
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We did that before. EZ-squeezy as he is most assuredly NOT a DEM... in the general sense in which that term is used. ( Despite furious , 'foaming at the mouth' protestations from some here that he IS or WAS one .... i.e. a DEM..... at one time. BTW, they are kinda quiet lately. Hmmmm.)
He can run and win as a Republican with a sham INDY third party backing as he did last time, seems to me. With heavy ( i.e. 30% crossover) from RW DEMS, of course.
Unless.... even the densest of nutmeggers have had enough.
AND... we can field a strong candidate. I like Lamont.... but no more "amateur hour".
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Fri Dec-18-09 08:32 AM
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6. Why Bother With The Primaries At All... |
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Traitor Joe will run again as an "independent"...thus there won't be a primary battle like in '06. And as was the case in '06, I expect the GOOP to clear the field or put up a real loser and quietly funnel money to Joementum. So the only way Joe goes is if he's beaten in the general.
We hear that the folks of Connecticut have had enough of this shitstain...but I heard that in '06 and he won...so unless the Democratic party and the netroots work hard to get a quality candidate and then work to get out the vote, it'll be Joementum who gets the last laugh.
One wild card in this scenario and that's if Dodd loses this year.
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Smarmie Doofus
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Fri Dec-18-09 09:08 AM
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8. He'll be 70 in 2012. That's like 50 in the Senate so odds are... |
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... he'll run for reeelect.
Probably as a Republcan/IND... in the mold of Bloomberg in NYC ( big supporters of each other, BTW; even sharing campaign staff and consultants).
The paid consultants and pr people will work out the details and the packaging. ( This one's going to require MAJOR repackaging; but they've accomplished even more astonishing feats.)
DEMS in CT did plenty of work last time for Lamont ( 'cept for those that deserted; alas... they will always be lost to us, I'm afraid.). But you're right: DEM mainstreamers need to start identifying the available talent ( professional, i.e. an office holder and proven campaigner) while simultaneously figuring out the $$$ aspects.
Potential challengers to L last time were deterred by lack of money.... a void that Lamont was able to painlessly fill.
I again, I do NOT blame Lamont. He redefined the CT DEM party when it deeded to be redefined... and on that level all this realignment ( i.e. to reflect reality) is good.
But it's a good idea to actually get RID of Lieberman next time.
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Fri Dec-18-09 09:21 AM
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11. Netroots Growing Pains... |
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I keep citing January 2005 as the Democrats low point. booooosh had been re-selected and the Democrats lost seats in the election and face having near veto-proof rushpublican majorities in both houses. This was when things started to turn around...especially within the netroots. First there was Paul Hackett in Ohio...and then onto Ned. I like Ned a lot and it was a heady time when he won the primary. It was the netroots first taste of success, but it was short-lived. No sooner was the primaries over than attention was drawn to a lot of other races...seemed like some were just content on winning the primary and lost interest in the general.
The real problem in '06 was the netroots ended up fighting with the DNC and DSCC who gave Ned no support in the general while Rove and the RNC funneled money to Joe...as well as the unions staying with Joe. If he's to be beaten in '12 (and I agree, he'll run again), this has to be a full team effort.
Cheers...
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Fri Dec-18-09 09:16 AM
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9. maybe people will change parties to cross over if he runs as a repub. nt |
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Fri Dec-18-09 08:33 AM
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7. Anyone can create a party. A party does not have to have a primary to name a |
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candidate. They just have to meet whatever qualifications are set to have a ballot spot.
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Fri Dec-18-09 09:27 AM
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12. Even if he lost the primary he would weasel his way back in the race |
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Fri Dec-18-09 12:51 PM
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13. i heard he was retiring after this term. eom |
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