For the umpteen millionth time on DU, STATES CANNOT RECALL SENATORS!!!

[WeDidIt]

Damn, people. Learn something about your constitution.

Article 1, Section 5 of the United States Constitution explicitly reserves the power of removing sitting Senators and Congresspersons to their respective houses of Congress and requires a 2/3 vote to do so.

Because this is a power explicitly granted to the Congress, no state has the power to do so.

If you don't like this fact, get an amendment passed that will allow the states to have the power to recall these officials.

18 states do allow recalls, but that is ONLY for state and local officials. No state has the power to recall a sitting US Senator of Congressman.

[hobbit709]

1. The only way to recall them is to vote them out in the next election.

and in the meantime give them as much grief as possible.

[Trajan]

2. First I heard of it here ...

Umpteen ?

Er .... nope ....

[WeDidIt]

4. I've read the ridiculous calls to "recall Lieberman" for years here

longer than I've been a poster, in fact.

[Trajan]

7. I have heard many denunciations of Lieberman here ....

But those that use the word 'recall' ? ....

Are you sure ?

Can you provide DU citations ?

I am on an ANTI Bullshit crusade - Show us ....

[racaulk]

8. Here's one:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7260822

[Trajan]

11. OK ... There is one ....

Any others ?

Can someone get sick and tired of one instance of someone saying 'recall' something ??

These wide ranging castigations of 'DUers' for committing sins .... well: most have no foundation ....

This is one of those accusations without foundation ....

[MineralMan]

17. Unfortunately for you, DU has search capabilities. You want

a list of posts about recalling Lieberman? Go to the top of this page. See the little Google Search box? Type recall lieberman in it and click Search.


For pete's sake...you didn't even bother to check. It's tiresome to have to do the work you could have done for yourself.

[Trajan]

31. Unfortunately for me ?

Hah .... I began coming to DU 6 years before you arrived ... so I am pretty sure I found that little google search box long long ago ...

My point is this: Why castigate 'DU' for the actions of a very few people ?

You act as if every other DUer is a fucking idiot, and so excuse me if I beg to differ ....

Whatever number of hits you may find in 'the little google search box', it is minuscule compared to the number of decent AND intelligent DUers who do not deserve the back of your hand ...

I have been here a very long time ... Rarely have I seen anyone demand Lieberman be 'recalled', and SURELY it is rare from most DUers ....

But whatever ..... Like I really give a fuck ....

For the Record: I think Lieberman should be run outta town by a mob with pitchforks, but that is not constitutional either ....

[Richardo]

3. The ignorance of how our government functions is staggering

I learn quickly who is to be taken seriously and who can be safely dismissed.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

5. It saddens me that even DUers don't bother learn these things.

I mean, you're obviously interested in the topic if you're posting on a political forum. Why wouldn't you take some time to, I don't know, read a book about the basics? Baffling.

[Richardo]

13. Saw one the other day suggesting that Kucinich should filibuster.

:eyes:

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

15. Ugh...

[Bluenorthwest]

22. Actually, it was not a sincere suggestion

it was an attack on Dennis, by a person who knows nothing about government, which is a trait common among those who attack Dennis Kucinich.

[MineralMan]

18. Sadly, the misinformation held by many DUers, not to mention

the general population of this country, leads to lots of wasted time. What's even more remarkable, is that when someone points out the correct information, the ignorant folks argue about it and start trashing the truthteller.

So much time is wasted in the promulgation of incorrect information that it could be a full time job just replying to OPs that begin with a false premise.

This impeachment of Senators and Congress members has been debunked numerous times, and yet it still keeps coming up. Nobody seems to bother to check their premises before posting, and correcting such false premises ends up getting the person doing the correcting slammed unmercifully.

It is a sad thing. This is supposed to be a politically sophisticated site. It proves itself not to be many times each day.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

6. Well....In that case....

Every voter in Connecticut should order a pizza and have it delivered to Lieberman's house.

Where's your Constitutional Authority NOW, Mr. Smarypants!!

[WeDidIt]

9. They would have the authority

but it would be a lot funnier if every pizza had anchovies.

[MineralMan]

19. Hey! I like anchovies on pizza.

[John Q. Citizen]

16. That would indicted a strong sense of lack of cofidence in the electorate. Something that

Joe has long ago cut loose from caring about.

Joe is working for the man, is the man, after all.

If the electorate would consistently and reliably moon Lieberman at every possible occasion we could end his reign of terror.

It's still not a federal crime to moon Lieberman, but they would probably attempt to add some participants to the sex crimes lists.

If we could get it going, it could become fashionable to moon Lieberman, and people who did it successfully and video documented it could become brief national heroes. A book will be written and published about mooning Joe at a state dinner, and maybe a new TV show, "Funniest Mooning Joe Home Videos" will become a Sunday afternoon staple for those citizens still without premium TV channels.

After two or three years of being mooned, I would expect Joe would become more reclusive than he currently is.

[John Q. Citizen]

10. word!

[still_one]

12. sure, but the Senate did not need to give lieberman a chairmanship did they? /nt

[Winterblues]

14. Right we all know that but maybe Connecticut could recall Lieberman

:silly:

[melm00se]

20. one thing the wing nuts

have right (and I heard this on a talk station) was that everyone should read the US Constitution so you know what the federal government can and cannot do as well as how to change the document to cover certain topics.

[tammywammy]

21. Recommended

This has been brought up at various times concerning different members of Congress. It still surprises me the lack of basic Constitutional knowledge around here.

[johnnie]

23. Some more conversation on it

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2201861#2201972

[treestar]

24. Another thing, removing his effin' chairmanship

3000 calls for it per day on DU, no explanation of how it is done. And some seem to think the POTUS can do it! I doubt that.

[hfojvt]

25. if I could go back in time

I'd wanna meet Snoopy.










What? Isn't anything possible?

[jgraz]

26. Which raises an excellent point

Where IS that Constitutional Amendment to allow recall of Senators? We could really use it.

[Winterblues]

27. But they can be Impeached.....

:shrug: Get someone to give Lieberman a blowjob..

[RufusTFirefly]

28. Imagine a corporation that you couldn't boycott for six years

That's what we've got.
If a business does something I don't approve of, I drop it like a rock and shop elsewhere.
With Congress, I'm still forced to "shop there" (pay their salary) for another two to six years.
And since much of Congress has essentially been transformed into a corporation, it doesn't seem fair.

[Xithras]

29. Well, yeah, if you squint hard and make stuff up, I guess it says that.

Article 1, Section 5 lays out the rules by which each house may expel a member, but there is NOTHING in that section reserving the right exclusively to Congress or prohibiting the states from removing their own Senators.

Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two-thirds, expel a Member.

On edit: In fact, if you think about this in 10th amendment terms, the fact that the Constitution doesn't specifically disallow the activity menas that it IS authorized.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

[WeDidIt]

30. Sorry, it's court precedent Rankin v. Church

Federal officials are not subject to state level recalls.

As to your tenth amendment argument, the power to remove a sitting U.S. Senator or a U.S. Congressperson is SPECIFICALLY delegated to the United States by Article I, Section 5(2) of the United States Constitution, thus such a power cannot be reserved to the States or to the people without an amendment to the constitution specifically granting that power to the states or the people.