Do you currently have health insurance?

[NJmaverick]

Please answer honestly, as it would be helpful to know what the situation is.

[ixion]

1. I do... and if this bogus bill gets passed, that cost will triple

from the estimates I've read.

Which is freakin' ridiculous.

[Buzz Clik]

2. Don't forget the death panels!

[ixion]

8. they already exist. They're called INSURANCE AGENCIES

and they decide who will live and who will die on a daily basis. Nothing in this bill will change that.

[Romulox]

27. Yeah. Are you pretending that insurance companies don't ration care?

That's the only way they make money. :hi:

[DrDan]

7. I expect the same

my premiums are very reasonable - but I expect to get screwed by this bill.

[NJmaverick]

9. Have you read the bill?

[ixion]

13. excerpts... not all of it

but what I've read I don't like.

[NJmaverick]

23. Have you ever heard the story of the blind men and the elephant?

[ixion]

24. yes, and you know what?

I STILL don't support the stupid bill.

[NJmaverick]

25. Well at least you are honest about the very distinct possibility that you are wrong

[ixion]

29. that is

more than I can say for you, I'm sorry to say.

[NJmaverick]

31. Being appreciative of the lesson learned from the story

I make an effort to evaluate the measure in its entirety. My final conclusion my prove to be wrong, but it will not be the result of flawed evaluation process.

[ixion]

32. ya know...

people like you seem entirely incapable of carrying on a decent discussion. Your continual snark undermines any credibility you make seek.

I will carry this conversation no further.

[NJmaverick]

35. People like me? You mean the ones that practice and demand critcial thinking?

the ones that are careful to have facts or reasons behind any statements and expect the same of others? Yeah seeing how you like to make statements that are not based on either fact or reason, I could see how you would feel your creative process is stifled. Must be great to say whatever makes you feel good, facts be damned.

[ixion]

38. you pat yourself on the back all you want, and insult me all you want

you have no credibility with me whatsoever. I see ZERO critical thinking skills reflected in your posts.

Good day, sir.

[NightWatcher]

3. only a health plan: Plan on not getting sick

My dental plan is: chew on the other side of my mouth.

I haven't had insurance for 5 years.

[cali]

4. Yes. I have this:

http://www.catamounthealth.org/catamount-health-information.html

[Fire1]

17. Terrific! Outstanding. If we could implement plans on a

state by state basis, THIS should be the model.

[Fire1]

18. delete. Wrong spot. n/t

[cali]

19. There's an even better plan coming down from the VT legislature

I posted about this morning. I'll kick the thread. Some really good ideas.

[NJmaverick]

36. That's a pretty good plan and idea

[endless october]

5. other : COBRA nt

[Not Me]

6. I have (employer provided) health insurance

which (in an at-will employment state) could end tomorrow without cause.
And then I would be in a world of hurtin'.

[Tailormyst]

10. I do not.

Fortunately my sons have it through their father.

[StarfarerBill]

11. Nada. Mostly unemployed and can't afford it.

[T Wolf]

12. I think the fact that most (so far) of us have "coverage" AND many of us still think that

the proposed bill sucks and universal coverage is the only good outcome speaks volumes.

That we are willing to make a change in a system that generally works for us tells me that we care about everyone's health, not just our own.

But then, that is the characteristic of liberals versus cons and mods.

[Kahuna]

14. K&R nt

[raccoon]

15. I have an individual plan, as my employer doesn't offer me and 50% of the other employees here

any benefits.

It's basically a catastrophic coverage plan. High deductible and doesn't cover 2 pre-existing conditions.

I'd love to have group medical; haven't had it since 1993.

I'd love the USA to have a national health plan even more.

[hobbit709]

16. I have COVERAGE through the VA

Insurance I don't have.

[jdadd]

22. Same here.....

VA is my only coverage, I lost my group coverage in 2007 when my workplace closed up.

[Fire1]

20. Yes. Husband is on my dental and everything else covered

by VA. My coverage is through Blue Cross/Blue Shield. Son covered by ex's federal plan (not sure which company).

[HopeHoops]

21. I've got it, but the premium's went up over 40% this year!

No shit - over a 40% increase for the same level of coverage. That sucks moose cock.

[Blue Diadem]

26. We have Cobra until Dec. 31st when our subsidy runs out.

I read that the house voted for the 6 month subsidy extension which would mean we'll still be able to carry it into next year. It was included in the dept. of defense bill. I don't know if the Senate has voted yet or not.

[Romulox]

28. I unrecced this without voting because I don't care for the OP. nt

[PRETZEL]

30. I have coverage,

I work for a county agency (i.e. a particular Dem govornor candidate) in which for the first time in it's history, employees will now have to participate in paying a part of their premiums.

This issue has been a huge area of debate. It's not so much I mind (I had to pay when I worked in the private sector) but it's the rhetoric being used that's at issue.

Mind you, these same people have touted us as being great workers who accepted lower pay because of the wonderful benefit packages offered. At one time, that was so very true.

The last 2 years we've been hit pretty hard, imo. Last year we were basically forced out of the PPO that had been offered since I started some 13 years ago into a HMO. Luckily that wasn't so bad especially in lieu of not getting the full COLA that was approved (we only got 75%).

This year, us employees not only have forgo a COLA that our surrounding county colleagues got, but they are now basically forcing us out of that HMO into an extremely high co-pay plan plus having us part part of the premiums (somewhere around 5% based on salary).

So yeah, I have insurance. I also have taken about a 7% paycut on top of it, plus another 4-5% for co-pays that I have to put into a FSA just in case an emergency occurs and then at the end of the year if nothing catastrophic happens, buying shit I don't need just to keep from losing it.

[Ikonoklast]

33. I am self-employed and pay for my health care.

Just got the January premium in the mail.

It went up 28%.


I won't be able to afford it much longer, and I am not getting any younger.

[guitar man]

34. yes for now anyway

premiums way too high and going up every year, devouring my paycheck :(

[Solly Mack]

37. Yes. I have insurance that Americans help pay for with their taxes.

My taxes pay for it. Your taxes pay for it. Everyone that pays taxes pays for it. Course, it is also a job related benefit but I don't ever pretend it isn't tax payer paid for, because it is. I do pay for dental insurance though...a whole 18 dollars a month for family coverage that covers 50%-100% of all costs(depends on treatment). (it's tax payer subsidized)