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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 11:03 AM
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Does IBM get a better rate for Health Insurance than Joe's Garage?
Why is that? I remember when Clinton promised lower rates for everyone because it would have even more clout than IBM to negotiate rates...Republicans hated that idea..
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 11:04 AM
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1. #1, IBM Self Insures
#2, IBM Has about 200,000 Domestic employees.

That's a hell of a pool for price negotiations.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 11:12 AM
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7. I think most large companies do the same thing
My employer, Ford, self insures and pays Blue Cross a percentage to do the paperwork.

Don
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 11:05 AM
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2. Generally yes, but it depends....
A larger employer can typically get a better deal on health care by negotiating costs and by having a larger pool.

Now if Joe's Garage enters a cooperative group (with lots of other Garage's in his state/region) he can probably get a decent deal.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 11:06 AM
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3. I'm not sure, it wasn't very large ...
there was just enough room to cram the drums in the corner, over by the Dodge.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 11:06 AM
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4. Economy of scale. "Buying in bulk" gets you a lower price.
Redstone
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 11:07 AM
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5. Of course tthey do, they get better rates than the co. I worked
for too. The more employees you have in the plan, the broader the age range so the broader the risk. Our Co. had 350 employees, but nowhere near the # IBM has. That's why the Public option was so popular. The membership base would/could have been millions! Joe's garage maybe has 5 employees so the risk is higher and the rates are too.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 11:09 AM
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6. Manpower is one of the largest employers in the world.
When I worked for them they "offered" a choice of 3 plans that they didn't pay any portion of. And this was for long term employees. The only decent plan was $500 a month for a single person.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 12:26 PM
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8. Some large employers also have healthier employees
Medical costs depend on age distribution, sex of employees, general fitness, region of the country, type of work employees do, socioeconomic status of employees, etc.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-18-09 12:43 PM
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9. The real solution is to expand the pool to include 350 million Americans
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