let's stop the circle jerk and put the fucking party on notice - the tent doesn't include crackers

[dusmcj]

I'm tired of this shit, the nattering here about how Obama should win us back in our virginal progressive innocence and idealism, and the aging handjob hustlers in DC jerking each other off and blowing their load all over us.

No money for (flaccid) Party organs. That includes DNC, DSCC, DCCC and the rest.

Donate only to specific candidates who you feel deserve your support. Make it specific, about you, and about them.

There's nothing keeping you from donating to someone who isn't in your district, your party or your region.

The Democratic Party starts getting money again when it clues in that:
- it serves its members. Not the other way around
- as part of that, it causes its candidates to operate within a fairly loose envelope of limits:
-- no Democrat candidate or elected officeholder will oppose reproductive and sexual personal rights, including contraception funding, sex education (the real kind), abortion access, and insurance funding of abortion. Since a majority of the American public, nevermind the Party membership, supports all of these
-- more broadly, no Democrat candidate or elected officeholder will support attempts to legislate personal consensual morality
-- Democrats support the public interest over business interests.
-- As part of that, Democrats will vigorously expose the lie that business interests are equivalent to the public interest should it be mouthed, and proceed to vigorously regulate the private sector wherever appropriate, and to create public-sector solutions that work as replacements for defunct private-sector solutions (e.g. for health care).

Not all opinions are equally valid, some people's opinions don't even deserve consideration, other than to conclude that those persons are not qualified to hold a meaningful opinion on the particular topic at hand, and if we dissolve our philosophy on behalf of getting as many votes in the US Congress as possible, then we lose our differentiation from the real vermin, our native Talib reactionaries across the aisle.

Have a nice fucking day, fellas. And remember demographic realities, or the demographics will _forget_ you.

[Fading Captain]

1. KICKED!!! We Run The Show!

BOOM!

[dbonds]

2. We need to get back on the streets with protest too.

I'm getting a bit old, but I'll get out there. Nationwide work strike will send a message also.

[sharesunited]

10. I've been on a work strike for years. And now I have them just where I want them.

[mattvermont]

3. Very well done

You have expressed much of what I have been feeling for years...and in a concise manner.
The "New Democrat Manifesto"
Thank you

[AndyA]

4. I've said the same thing to several callers looking for money in recent weeks.

No money for Democrats...I choose which specific candidates I'll donate to. And it will be strictly candidates who are doing what I believe needs to be done. I will not be dictated to by the White House, or any Democratic group.

One even had the balls to tell me how hard the Democrats in Congress were working for me! (Boy, did that person get an earload from me!)

I have been told I'm not the only one they're hearing this from, so the message is getting around.

No more money until they do what they're supposed to be doing (for a change).

[BlueCaliDem]

5. Excellent! K&R & Rec! eom

[pennylane100]

6. my money is going to DFA,

act blue and move-on. I always return emails from DNC (not sure if they ever get back there), telling them that I do not want to give and then I unsubscribed. I also emailed the WH and told Mr Gibbs that he owed gov Howard an apology and that I was registering independent.

[dusmcj]

7. oh yes, HCR 'success' or 'failure' doesn't affect this, it's just one piece of evidence

Party performance on HCR is just the latest instance of pandering, gladhanding, equivocating and decloaking as being beholden to the same interests as the mainstream of the GOP, give or take an evangelist or two. Parties are for representing a gathering place for people who support particular philosophies to work together to advance them, and then also insisting that the benefits of membership accrue only to those who in fact support those philosophies, by word and by deed. After Bill Clinton and his grownups making shit happen for the Party for 8 years, it was followed up by the usual suspects (I remember Felcherman was one of the "New Democrats") thinking they would ride the wave in to shore after Papa Bill had summoned the winds. Their notion of effective political action was to put the word "fight" in email subject lines, but lose elections. Not so good. Party performance here has just been a continuation of that.

The Party is not a shopping club, or a mutual benevolent society (the misunderstanding of some members of the Senate notwithstanding) but rather exists based on what platforms it espouses. It has persisted in failing to espouse platforms, any platforms, particularly vigorously of late, and in this case on issues where the platform mattered, immediately and for the future.

You play, you pay. Lest someone think (Rahm) that if you pull a bunny out of the Party's ass and call it a win on HCR, then in 11 months from now no one will remember history. Bad plan, count on it.

[xfundy]

8. Better yet--

Let's get money ouy of politics, period.

[xfundy]

9. Better yet--

Let's get money ouy of politics, period.

[bobbolink]

11. My line in the sand is taking homelessness as an issue.

Guess I won't ever have to worry about donating, will I?

It's not on ANYBODY'S list.

:nuke:

[LoZoccolo]

12. So no money for the DNC, DCCC, DSCC...

...is that anything like how right-wingers think that we should discontinue under-funded and under-supported things like education and social programs, due to problems with them?

[laughingliberal]

13. No, it isn't nt

[Sebastian Doyle]

14. Goddamn right

We're taking our party back. FUCK the corporatists and traitors who think otherwise.