Five minutes late - reminder - Matt Taibbi on with Bill Moyers now on PBS n/t

[Mira]

[applegrove]

1. I saw it. It was an amazing show.

[Pirate Smile]

3. Did he say we should give up on the health care bill and wait 8 years?

I read somewhere else that he did.

[applegrove]

4. Yup he said not to pass it. The other interviewee (who was really informative too but I forget his

name) said to hold your nose and pass it.

[Pirate Smile]

7. Unbelievable. How many uninsured die per year? Kill the Bill and wait 8 years.

The "wait 8 years" part is the part I found truly egregious. I think a lot of people have lost all perspective.

[jonnyblitz]

11. the other guy was Robert Kuttner currently from the American

Prospect magazine ( i think).

[applegrove]

12. Yup. I remember the American Prospect part.

[Gabi Hayes]

2. thanks. robert kuttner, as well.

wish I'd seen this earlier

my station doesn't replay it

do they do it at PBS site?

[grasswire]

5. Moyers site usually has highlights at least.

...and happy holidays to you!

[Mira]

8. A few sentences and a feel for what was said is at answer #10 here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7267476#7268844

[LuvNewcastle]

6. I'm going to miss Moyers.

His show is one of the most important news shows on television. I hope PBS has someone who can take his place and keep the Journal going.

[dmr]

9. Whewwww ... thought I missed it, but it'll be on tomorrow night at 8

Many thanks for the heads up. I've DVR'd it, just in case my mind slips, lol.

I'm going to miss Moyers - a lot!

[slipslidingaway]

10. Thanks, video and transcript are available at link below, snip >>>

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/12182009/watch.html

"BILL MOYERS: Let's start with some news. Some of the big insurance companies, Well Point, Cigna, United Health, all surged to a 52 week high in their share prices this week when it was clear there'd be no public option in the health care bill going through Congress right now. What does that tell you, Matt?

MATT TAIBBI: Well, I think what most people should take away from this is that the massive subsidies for health insurance companies have been preserved while it's also expanded their customer base because there's an individual mandate in the bill that's going to provide all these companies with the, you know, 25 or 30 million new people who are going to be paying for health insurance. So, it's, obviously, a huge boon to that industry. And I think Wall Street correctly read what the health care effort is all about.

ROBERT KUTTNER: Rahm Emanuel, the President's Chief of Staff, was Bill Clinton's Political Director. And Rahm Emanuel's take away from Bill Clinton's failure to get health insurance passed was 'don't get on the wrong side of the insurance companies.' So their strategy was cut a deal with the insurance companies, the drug industry going in. And the deal was, we're not going to attack your customer base, we're going to subsidize a new customer base. And that script was pre-cooked so it's not surprising that this is what comes out the other side.

BILL MOYERS: So are you saying that this, what some call a sweetheart deal between the pharmaceutical industry and the White House, done many months ago before this fight really began, was because the drug company money in the Democratic Party?"