this health care bill is the most wondeful victory the DLC has had to date!

[Lerkfish]

by definition, the DLC seeks partnership with powerful corporations at the expense of voters.
This health care bill will the shining gem on their crown while they crush the skulls of the dying voters under their steel boots.


I"m beyond disgusted. I am spiritless.

[Mari333]

1. I have the creepy feeling

That this was all a washout sham show from the beginning. That the health ins and big Pharma co.'s knew from the beginning the outcome of this bill and even orchestrated the whole show to make it look like it meant something.

The traitor dems played along, glad handing their republican friends .

and worst of all, I predict that the next PR show will be the bill being signed into law with the President sitting at a table with a huge Mission Accomplished Banner behind him and everyone giving themselves accolades

I think they are that clueless .

and stupid if they think the public wont see through the scam.

Bush taught us well about scams.

[ixion]

3. I think you are correct

I believe most everything offered up for public consumption is orchestrated in one way or another. At the very least, it is filtered though the "status quo" filter to make sure it won't rock the boat too much.

[liberalmuse]

4. They put good money on it.

If I've learned anything from my time on this planet, it's that money trumps everything.

[clear eye]

5. The tip-off was almost at the start Obama insisted that

any resulting law not go into effect until after 2012. It was about the only thing he did insist on. That's why I knew any enacted public option wouldn't resemble what we thought that term meant, and started pushing single-payer as a way to move the debate and to bail out of something disastrous. A President thinking that he was passing something the public would like once they saw it in action would want it to start up as soon as possible. It was only confirmed when he guaranteed the insurance association that the law could be written in a way that would eliminate any chance it might lead to single payer.

[TorchTheWitch]

12. BINGO!

Some of us have been saying the same thing.

[lapfog_1]

2. Add it to the long list of their "victories"

welfare reform.
NAFTA and the list of trade policies.
bankruptcy reform.

etc, etc, etc.

[billyoc]

6. Media monopolies was a big one too.

[1776Forever]

7. Ah yes, the DLC - I just started to "learn" about them - for reference read on.....

The DLC's affiliated think tank is the Progressive Policy Institute. Will Marshall - President and Founder, Progressive Policy Institute posted this article today on Huffington Post and it says it all when it comes to who and what the DLC's "vision" is:

Will Marshall
December 17, 2009

Will Liberals Really Kill Health Reform?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/will-marshall/will-liberals-really-kill_b_395999.html

The never-ending story of health care reform took another turn for the weird this week.

It began with liberals working themselves into a lather over Sen. Joe Lieberman's threat to scuttle reform unless the Medicare buy-in was dropped. Now Howard Dean, liberal paladin and former Chairman of the Democratic National Committee, is campaigning openly to kill a Democratic president's top domestic priority. Vermont's Sen. Bernie Sanders, the Senate's sole self-avowed social democrat, warns the White House that he is not a certain vote for health reform, though it's unlikely that he would cast a vote with the Republicans.......

What prompted Dean's scream on health reform was the decision by Senate leaders, backed by the White House, to drop both the public option and the Medicare buy-in in pursuit of the 60 votes needed for passage. In a characteristically self-righteous outburst in today's Washington Post, Dean helpfully accused his fellow Democrats of selling out to the health insurance industry..........

Despite the public infighting and fratricidal rending of garments, congressional Democrats are only one vote away from an historic victory on health care reform. So progressives should stop obsessing over Joe Lieberman, turn off Howard Dean, and help Barack Obama bring home the prize.

...............

And from the DLC site:

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=893&kaid=86&subid=85

The Next Generation of Leaders

From statehouses to Congress to the Obama Cabinet, the DLC has an unparalleled track record in identifying and promoting tomorrow's leaders. Rahm Emanuel, Hillary Clinton, Janet Napolitano, Ken Salazar, Kathleen Sebelius, Tom Vilsack, Evan Bayh, Tom Carper, Mark Warner, Ron Kirk, Larry Summers, Christine Gregoire, Martin O'Malley, and Harold Ford, Jr., are just a few of the leaders who have worked closely with us over the years on their way to becoming influential Democratic voices.

...............

This is where the "vision" we see now in the culmination of this bill came from.

[glitch]

8. Now watch this drive! nt

[phasma ex machina]

9. All hail big biz's almighty big tent!

:sarcasm:

[madfloridian]

10. They are doing pretty damn good on charter schools also.

Harold Ford DLC urges us not to try to water down Obama's education agenda.

"In his op ed today in the WSJ Ford joins with Eli Broad of the Broad Foundation and Louis Gerstner, former chairman of IBM. The Broad Foundation has joined the Gates and Walton foundations in giving hundreds of millions to advance charter schools.

"Now, however, President Barack Obama has launched "Race to the Top," a competition that is parceling out $4.35 billion in new education funding to states that are committed to real reform. This program offers us an opportunity to finally move the ball forward.

To that end Mr. Obama and Education Secretary Arne Duncan are pushing states toward meaningful change. Mr. Duncan has even stumped for reform alongside former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich. Yet the administration must continue to hang tough on two critical issues: performance standards and competition.

Already the administration is being pressured to dilute the program's requirement that states adopt performance pay for teachers and to weaken its support for charter schools. If the president does not remain firm on standards, the whole endeavor will be just another example of great rhetoric and poor reform. Competition among the states is also vital to reform. The administration is resisting the temptation to award funds to as many states as possible. And that's good. To be effective, Race to the Top funds cannot become a democratic handout. Competition brings out the best performance. That's true in athletics and in business, and it's true in education."

..."

[LWolf]

11. I am infuriated

with the Democratic Party and the Democrats who voted those centrist/corporatist/3rd way/"new" dems into office.