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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 01:50 PM
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Poll question: TRUE or FALSE
Edited on Sat Dec-19-09 01:53 PM by branders seine
Obama should cease his triangulating, right-of-center ways and embrace the left as partners at implementing a progressive agenda for America.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 01:53 PM
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1. He needs to stop listening to the Angry Dwarf and remember who elected him
Chimpy was a total piece of shit, but at least he realized who voted for him.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 01:54 PM
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2. push poll
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:01 PM
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3. yep.
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:26 PM
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5. Not a push poll. A 'FALSE' answer negates the rhetorical content
Edited on Sat Dec-19-09 03:18 PM by branders seine
of the statement. Biased, yes. Push poll, no.

In a push poll, either one response is ridiculous, or both responses yield the same answer.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:32 PM
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8. "false positive" = push poll
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 03:20 PM
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16. I stand partially corrected, with apologies.
Edited on Sat Dec-19-09 03:20 PM by branders seine
This poll meets, at least partially, the definition of a push poll. It is a poll that intends to deliver an opinion while asking a question.

The actual structure, though, fails to meet another characteristic of push polls. Namely, someone opposed to the stated position could vote 'FALSE' without either agreeing to something ridiculous or something counter to their position.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 11:35 PM
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18. Neh, you're cool, I do this shit for a living...
It may be just that I'm woefully privy :( to the ways in which data can be skewed or flat-out manipulated :hi:
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:02 PM
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4. yeah, he should follow the "would Mike Malloy support this?" test
that's the key for Democrats to win elections. Ideological purity is a must, and if nothing gets done, so be it.

:sarcasm:
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:27 PM
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6. So you're one of the 3 'FALSE' votes I take it?
Edited on Sat Dec-19-09 03:17 PM by branders seine
Thanks for playing.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:39 PM
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12. At least we know who one of the 5 false votes was
it still doesnt answer the question "What the fuck are you doing on DU"? though.
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:50 PM
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14. so a bill supported by every democrat in the senate and opposed by every republican
Edited on Sat Dec-19-09 02:59 PM by TheWebHead
that you don't support makes me someone that doesn't belong on DU? If that site was DemocraticFringeUnderground.com, you might be correct.
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 03:09 PM
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15. who said you don't belong on DU?
I didn't.

I'm glad you're here. :hug:

We disagree; we discuss.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 03:35 PM
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17. What did the poll question have to do with anything you just posted
Obama should cease his triangulating, right-of-center ways and embrace the left as partners at implementing a progressive agenda for America.


Where does it say anything about a health care bill in the question. You chose to inject your own interpretation in the question and then trashed the majority of DU by calling us "fringe". Where did you learn those talking points, Glenn Beck?

If you dont think Obama should have a Democratic agenda e.g. left of center, then I will ask you directly, "Why are you here?".
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:27 PM
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7. .
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:34 PM
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9. True or False: actually doing so would be a lot more complicated than "embrace the left"
True or false: the Left was way too goddamned passive through this whole process.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:37 PM
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10. The fact that you think Obama is right-of-center basically blows anything else you have to say...
...out of the water. So no, Obama should not hand you a magic wand to do whatever you want. He doesn't have that magic wand to give anyway, even though you seem to think he does.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:39 PM
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13. The Fact That You Don't Recognize That Obama is Right of "Center"
...means you should be in a sandbox somewhere.

You don't understand enough to play with the big boys.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-19-09 02:38 PM
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11. That's Why He Was Fucking Elected, And Anyone Who Says Otherwise Is a Fucking Liar.
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