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Sun Dec-20-09 08:37 AM
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Most significant legislative 1st year since FDR ? |
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In Sunday's NY Times article "Obama, Denied Full Victory on 2 Issues, Take Validation" says:
"With health care now looking closer to passage, Mr. Emanuel called it the “most significant legislative first year of a first-term president since Franklin Delano Roosevelt.”
To paraphrase Barney Frank - What planet do you spend your time on, Rahm?
Oh, that's right you live on Planet White House in the Galaxy of Corporate, so you must be right.
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Sun Dec-20-09 08:40 AM
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1. So many brilliant posts this morning. Goodness gracious me. |
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Sun Dec-20-09 08:41 AM
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2. Can you prove it's not true? nt |
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Sun Dec-20-09 08:43 AM
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Prove that it's not true?
Oh my, what planet are you living on
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Sun Dec-20-09 08:44 AM
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5. So prove it, with links. Thanks. nt |
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Sun Dec-20-09 09:02 AM
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Read the books,"Nothing to Fear: FDR's Inner Circle and the Hundred Days That Created Modern America"by Adam Cohen or "The Coming of the New Deal, 1933-1935" by Arthur Schlesinger.
Obama is over hyped and over Corporate.
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Sun Dec-20-09 09:10 AM
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19. The administration consistently over promises and under delivers. |
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It's like every last one of them flunked marketing 101.
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Sun Dec-20-09 09:19 AM
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21. So you can't prove it. Got it. nt |
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Sun Dec-20-09 09:55 AM
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24. The Poster Cited a Source To Theoretically Prove His Point. |
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The fact that you're too lazy to look it up does not disprove the OP's point.
You asked for proof. The OP provided you with proof. You refuse to look at it.
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Sun Dec-20-09 08:42 AM
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3. It's just not a valid comparison. Not fair to either president. Good on them both for trying. nt |
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Sun Dec-20-09 08:44 AM
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Sun Dec-20-09 08:46 AM
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7. It's a big time insult to Johnson. |
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1964 was a stellar year for liberal politics.
Kill the bill. Forcing people to buy insurance is no more the answer to a failed health care system than forcing people to buy houses is the solution to homelessness.
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-Laelth
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Sun Dec-20-09 08:49 AM
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Sun Dec-20-09 09:05 AM
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18. Getting the voting rights act passed was an amazing feat of guts and hard work. |
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Did I mention guts and hard work? LBJ really WORKED.
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Sun Dec-20-09 09:57 AM
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26. You mean LBJ didn't just sit around the White House hoping Congress might come up with something |
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that he could sign?
Golly. What will they think of next?
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Sun Dec-20-09 08:55 AM
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12. 1964 was a little before my time. |
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and probably a lot of other's time as well. (hint)
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Sun Dec-20-09 08:52 AM
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and Eleanor Da Woman. No one comes close.
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Sun Dec-20-09 09:18 AM
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20. No doubt. Elanor rocked. n/t |
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Kill the bill. Forcing people to buy insurance is no more the answer to a failed health care system than forcing people to buy houses is the solution to homelessness.
:dem:
-Laelth
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Sun Dec-20-09 08:53 AM
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10. Rahm Emanuel picks up a dog turd and sprinkles glitter on it |
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and tells everyone it's a beautiful diamond.
what world does that POS live in?
does he think people actually believe him?
what a wanker he is.
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Sun Dec-20-09 08:54 AM
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11. Personally, I feel like we did better under Clinton than Obama |
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Sun Dec-20-09 09:02 AM
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14. Bill at least waited till he had to deal with a GOP congress |
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to start triangulating everything.
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Sun Dec-20-09 09:00 AM
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13. I agree - if you own a bank, corporation or insurance company...... |
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Banner fucking year for all of them.
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Sun Dec-20-09 09:03 AM
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16. rahm may be right--just not in the way he thinks. "significant" doesn't necessarily mean good. |
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for example, the 1933 enabling act was highly significant legislation.
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Sun Dec-20-09 09:04 AM
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17. Bush really lowered the bar. nt |
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Sun Dec-20-09 09:21 AM
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22. The Obama/FDR comparison is pure PR. Just like the campaign. |
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At some point, hopefully soon, people will wise up.
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Sun Dec-20-09 09:31 AM
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23. Please do not use FDR's name in vain. |
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Sun Dec-20-09 09:56 AM
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25. Obama Can't Be Compared Favorably to Carter, Let Alone FDR. |
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He's been a total failure thus far.
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Sun Dec-20-09 10:01 AM
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27. COMING SOON: “The greatest president in recent memory who deserves a place on Mt. Rushmore” |
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or at least a second or third Nobel, if not in peace, then in metaphysics or something
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:41 AM
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33. did anyone wonder out loud WHO proposed BO for the Peace Prize? |
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Any way of finding it out after the fact?
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Sun Dec-20-09 01:18 PM
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35. Nominations are kept secret for 50 years: |
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Sun Dec-20-09 02:01 PM
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36. that's pretty darned convenient, isn't it? |
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WHY would this information need to be secret for that amount of time?
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Sun Dec-20-09 10:03 AM
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28. That may very well be true. |
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Congress passed the most aggressive fiscal policy in decades, and then undertook the largest social policy reform in decades. Legislatively, it has been an extremely eventful year. The fact that so few liberals seem to recognize this is an interesting sociological fact; I wonder how many said the same about FDR's.
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Sun Dec-20-09 10:07 AM
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29. No its not. It is pure and simple bullshit. It was said to craft your opninion. |
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Sun Dec-20-09 10:11 AM
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Frank Rich said in Sunday's column:
"But after a decade in which two true national catastrophes, a wasteful war and a near-ruinous financial collapse, were both in part byproducts of the ease with which our leaders bamboozled us, we can’t so easily move on."
"This can be seen in the increasingly urgent political plight of Barack Obama. Though the American left and right don’t agree on much, they are both now coalescing around the suspicion that Obama’s brilliant presidential campaign was as hollow as Tiger’s public image — a marketing scam designed to camouflage either his covert anti-American radicalism (as the right sees it) or spineless timidity (as the left sees it). The truth may well be neither, but after a decade of being spun silly, Americans can’t be blamed for being cynical about any leader trying to sell anything."
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Sun Dec-20-09 10:12 AM
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31. Keyword: marketing scam |
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:39 AM
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32. they are too busy polishing their legacy before it even happens |
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Wonder how many people are being hired by this administration to re-write history? Someone has to make all those campaign promises disappear soon. :sarcasm:
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:42 AM
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34. Perhaps this has been the most significant legislative first year- |
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if you're a bank or an insurance company, you have to be very, very happy right now.
So, it is very significant to his big money buddies.
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Sun Dec-20-09 02:50 PM
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38. Every time he opens his mouth a toxic site is created. n/t |
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