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bajamary Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:37 AM
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Most significant legislative 1st year since FDR ?
In Sunday's NY Times article "Obama, Denied Full Victory on 2 Issues, Take Validation" says:

"With health care now looking closer to passage, Mr. Emanuel called it the “most significant legislative first year of a first-term president since Franklin Delano Roosevelt.”

To paraphrase Barney Frank - What planet do you spend your time on, Rahm?

Oh, that's right you live on Planet White House in the Galaxy of Corporate, so you must be right.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:40 AM
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1. So many brilliant posts this morning. Goodness gracious me.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:41 AM
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2. Can you prove it's not true? nt
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bajamary Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:43 AM
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4. yes

Prove that it's not true?

Oh my, what planet are you living on
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:44 AM
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5. So prove it, with links. Thanks. nt
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bajamary Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:02 AM
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15. read a history book

Read the books,"Nothing to Fear: FDR's Inner Circle and the Hundred Days That Created Modern America"by Adam Cohen or "The Coming of the New Deal, 1933-1935" by Arthur Schlesinger.

Obama is over hyped and over Corporate.

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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:10 AM
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19. The administration consistently over promises and under delivers.
It's like every last one of them flunked marketing 101.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:19 AM
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21. So you can't prove it. Got it. nt
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:55 AM
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24. The Poster Cited a Source To Theoretically Prove His Point.
The fact that you're too lazy to look it up does not disprove the OP's point.

You asked for proof. The OP provided you with proof. You refuse to look at it.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:42 AM
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3. It's just not a valid comparison. Not fair to either president. Good on them both for trying. nt
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bajamary Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:44 AM
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6. It's an insult to FDR
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:46 AM
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7. It's a big time insult to Johnson.
1964 was a stellar year for liberal politics.

Kill the bill.


Forcing people to buy insurance is no more the answer to a failed health care system than forcing people to buy houses is the solution to homelessness.

:dem:

-Laelth
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bajamary Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:49 AM
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8. Amen
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:05 AM
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18. Getting the voting rights act passed was an amazing feat of guts and hard work.
Did I mention guts and hard work? LBJ really WORKED.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:57 AM
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26. You mean LBJ didn't just sit around the White House hoping Congress might come up with something
that he could sign?

Golly. What will they think of next?
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:55 AM
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12. 1964 was a little before my time.
and probably a lot of other's time as well. (hint)
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:52 AM
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9. FDR was Da Man....
and Eleanor Da Woman.

No one comes close.

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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:18 AM
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20. No doubt. Elanor rocked. n/t

Kill the bill.


Forcing people to buy insurance is no more the answer to a failed health care system than forcing people to buy houses is the solution to homelessness.

:dem:

-Laelth
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:53 AM
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10. Rahm Emanuel picks up a dog turd and sprinkles glitter on it
and tells everyone it's a beautiful diamond.

what world does that POS live in?

does he think people actually believe him?

what a wanker he is.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 08:54 AM
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11. Personally, I feel like we did better under Clinton than Obama
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:02 AM
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14. Bill at least waited till he had to deal with a GOP congress
to start triangulating everything.
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:00 AM
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13. I agree - if you own a bank, corporation or insurance company......
Banner fucking year for all of them.

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:03 AM
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16. rahm may be right--just not in the way he thinks. "significant" doesn't necessarily mean good.
for example, the 1933 enabling act was highly significant legislation.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:04 AM
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17. Bush really lowered the bar. nt
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:21 AM
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22. The Obama/FDR comparison is pure PR. Just like the campaign.
At some point, hopefully soon, people will wise up.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:31 AM
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23. Please do not use FDR's name in vain.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 09:56 AM
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25. Obama Can't Be Compared Favorably to Carter, Let Alone FDR.
He's been a total failure thus far.
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pissedoff01 Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:01 AM
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27. COMING SOON: “The greatest president in recent memory who deserves a place on Mt. Rushmore”
or at least a second or third Nobel, if not in peace, then in metaphysics or something
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:41 AM
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33. did anyone wonder out loud WHO proposed BO for the Peace Prize?
Any way of finding it out after the fact?
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pissedoff01 Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 01:18 PM
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35. Nominations are kept secret for 50 years:
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 02:01 PM
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36. that's pretty darned convenient, isn't it?
WHY would this information need to be secret for that amount of time?
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:03 AM
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28. That may very well be true.
Congress passed the most aggressive fiscal policy in decades, and then undertook the largest social policy reform in decades. Legislatively, it has been an extremely eventful year. The fact that so few liberals seem to recognize this is an interesting sociological fact; I wonder how many said the same about FDR's.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:07 AM
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29. No its not. It is pure and simple bullshit. It was said to craft your opninion.
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bajamary Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:11 AM
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30. the suspicion
Frank Rich said in Sunday's column:

"But after a decade in which two true national catastrophes, a wasteful war and a near-ruinous financial collapse, were both in part byproducts of the ease with which our leaders bamboozled us, we can’t so easily move on."

"This can be seen in the increasingly urgent political plight of Barack Obama. Though the American left and right don’t agree on much, they are both now coalescing around the suspicion that Obama’s brilliant presidential campaign was as hollow as Tiger’s public image — a marketing scam designed to camouflage either his covert anti-American radicalism (as the right sees it) or spineless timidity (as the left sees it). The truth may well be neither, but after a decade of being spun silly, Americans can’t be blamed for being cynical about any leader trying to sell anything."
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pissedoff01 Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:12 AM
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31. Keyword: marketing scam
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:39 AM
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32. they are too busy polishing their legacy before it even happens
Wonder how many people are being hired by this administration to re-write history? Someone has to make all those campaign promises disappear soon. :sarcasm:
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:42 AM
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34. Perhaps this has been the most significant legislative first year-
if you're a bank or an insurance company, you have to be very, very happy right now.

So, it is very significant to his big money buddies.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 02:43 PM
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37. K&R.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 02:50 PM
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38. Every time he opens his mouth a toxic site is created. n/t
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