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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:01 AM
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Silver Lining....if the medical reform bill passes...
... I'll freely admit that I don't like this bill because I'm not at all sure it will be a net gain.

I fail to see now it will control costs and controlling costs isn't everything, it is the only thing.

That said, there is one aspect of this I will enjoy. I will enjoy rubbing "elections have consequences" in the faces of idiot Republicans.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:12 AM
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1. "elections have consequences" And the rich get richer. n/t
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:14 AM
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2. I don't like this bill.
.... on its merits, but Republicans don't like it because Democrats want it.

Too bad, this is your payback for 8 years of moron rule.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:15 AM
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3. In this case, the consequence will probably be more Republicans
elected to Congress. They couldn't pay for a line as good as "the government is going to fine you for not buying health insurance."
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:17 AM
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4. That was going to happen anyway..
.. just based on the economy. It's always "the economy, stupid".
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:20 AM
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5. There are no reforms in this bill...
insurance companies and big pharma now can do what they will. Which one will be the first Enron of the health care lobby?

Kill this bill.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:23 AM
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6. Well...
... I tend to agree with you, I'm opposed to the passage of this legislation for sure.

But I'm trying to find the silver lining, and pissing off Republicans is at least something. Let them know how I felt for 8 long years.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:25 AM
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7. Legislation has consequences too.
And this bill, if it passes, will be a disaster for the Democratic Party. Polls show a majority of Americans oppose the individual mandate. This is a terrible piece of legislation, and the Democratic Party will (rightly) be punished for it by the electorate if it passes.

Kill the bill.


Forcing people to buy insurance is no more the answer to a failed health care system than forcing people to buy houses is the solution to homelessness.

:dem:

-Laelth
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griffi94 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:55 AM
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10. at this point
i'm more worried about the consequences for the middle class than for the democrats in office. dmn why didn't they just rob us with a pistol and get it over with
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:57 AM
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11. Me too. The mandate will crush the uninsured middle class. It's insane.

Kill the bill.


Forcing people to buy insurance is no more the answer to a failed health care system than forcing people to buy houses is the solution to homelessness.

:dem:

-Laelth
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BP2 Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:29 AM
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8. This is not the New Deal, but the Raw Deal
if it had the elements that we need, we'd see more support for it here.

Those elements have been stripped, and this bill needs to be fixed before we move out of the Senate.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 10:32 AM
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9. There is some hope..
.. in the reconciliation process, but I cannot get handle on just how much.
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