AllentownJake
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:20 AM
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Ronald Reagan beat Jimmy Carter in 1980 and Walter Mondale in 1984 |
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By appealing to working class men and women using Religion, Faux Patriotism, anti-tax, anti-immigration, and anti-communist rhetoric and the DLC convinced democrats the appropriate response was to sell out party principles to the big businesses that laid these workers off.
I'm reading that history right?
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:21 AM
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1. Well, yeah...that's about the gist of it. n/m |
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:24 AM
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2. Just want to make sure |
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I was 3-11 when he was President. Sesame Street followed by transformers were more interesting than Reagan and the democratic party at the time.
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:25 AM
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3. You got it about figured out alright |
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getting the government off our backs was the best line they came up with and with it a whole new. Mount Rushmore worthy, st ronnie emerged and we been getting it up the ass every since
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:27 AM
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and the real cause of the problem was left alone and than embraced by DLC shit heads.
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:43 AM
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13. I wasn't aware of the dlc back then so much |
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the dlc sucks if you want to know what I think
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:45 AM
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14. I thought Reagan's best line was |
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Edited on Sun Dec-20-09 11:46 AM by Yupster
during his debate with Carter.
A recession is when your neighbor loses his job. A depression is when you lose your job. A recovery is when Jimmy Carter loses his job.
I said "oooh" and thought -- hey this guy could actually win.
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:27 AM
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4. And didn't that win the golden ring for the working class! |
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The country still hasn't recovered.
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:28 AM
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6. And when he won he eliminated every tax bracket above 30%. |
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Edited on Sun Dec-20-09 11:29 AM by geckosfeet
This benefited the rich in a huge way.
To this day we see the result of funneling billions back into the corpo's and sheltered private money stockpiles. The power to influence and shape legislation is firmly in the hands of big money and corpo interests.
The working stiffs, for lack of education and knowledge of basic history, were duped into buying the televised American dreams. This has ensured a class system where they are simply another natural resource to be harvested by big money.
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:29 AM
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7. That, a compliant media, and the October Surprise treason. |
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The October Surprise X-FilesThat so many people voted for Pruneface also stands as an indictment of many American's disdain for higher education.
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:30 AM
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8. Iranian hostage crisis |
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Reagan won because of the Iranian hostage crisis. If the hostages would have been released, Carter would have won. Too much bad pr for Carter for months and months and months.
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Sun Dec-20-09 12:26 PM
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18. You hit the nail on the head |
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Though the massive inflation during the Carter presidency didn't help much either. The hostage rescue attempt was a massive boon doggle. The other big problem that worked against Carter, was the massive infighting within his administration. The same phenomenon reared its head during the last three years of Reagans second term.
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:30 AM
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9. the DLC wasn't formed until after Mondale lost. It was formed in 1985. |
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:30 AM
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the Democrats got the Presidency and a Congressional majority. I'm sure the Republicans would have accomplished much more in this time frame. Like scrapping the Constitution, crowning George W Bush King and Autocrat of All Americas and having several terror attacks.
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:32 AM
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:38 AM
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12. The Great Tax Cutter implemented the tax on gratuities. |
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One of the great regressive taxes of all time.
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:48 AM
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15. The Great Tax Cutter implemented the largest tax increase in post WWII history. |
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The 1982 Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act.
Per GDP and adjusted dollars.
The freeps always forget about that, conveniently.
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:53 AM
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...and stirring up animosity is progressive.
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Sun Dec-20-09 11:58 AM
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They are unanimous in their hate for me -- and I welcome their hatred. FDR
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