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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 02:20 PM
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Compromising
When I was learning about negotiations and compromising, I was taught to put EVERYTHING on the table. That way you have the maximum number of chips to bargain with. If you do have to compromise which is likely, you should still end up with something decent by fighting for everything and strategically choosing which chips go when.

Either the WH and the other leaders have never taken negotiating 101, or they intended to end up with a stripped down version. The only other possibility I see is that they made an assumption about the negotiations before they began. Maybe they assumed that the bargaining would be easier so they didn't start with everything.

I'm not sure what happened. Whatever did, it was a piss poor way to go about things. It doesn't engender confidence or trust when other policy fights are started.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 02:24 PM
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1. No, no, no. Thats not multi-dimensional chess
You are suppossed to put THEIR version on the table with a few frilly ribbons you are willing to have stripped away. Then, when they bluff about no deal, you cave into their whims instead of calling em. Then, in 58.7 years, during the Gemlock revolution, you will be in the perfect position to begin to implement a law that will come to fruition 34 years later (which will lead to single-payer in another century)
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 02:26 PM
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2. That makes as much sense
as what did happen.
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 02:45 PM
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3. The Democrats act like loosers even after they win...
The group with all the power is the last to compromise. Fucking wimps, they just killed people because they took their power off the table. Yes this bill will continue to give the insurance corporations the power to kill you. Team Obama just re-enabled this genocide of Americas own underprivileged majority.

You may not like my choice of genocide. How else do you describe a social condition that excludes people to death on purpose? A social condition that kills more people each month than our greatest national disaster. We have 4 hurricane Katrina's every month, we know they are coming, and team Obama immorally acts like their own costs too steep to end the suffering.

There is another unpopular word which describes this behavior; sellout!
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 03:20 PM
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5. Sellout is definitely more accurate. It's simple and easy, for most, to understand.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 02:49 PM
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4. There's a big difference between compromise and complicity.
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