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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:45 PM
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Al-Qaeda‘planning big British attack’
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1687360.ece

AL-QAEDA leaders in Iraq are planning the first “large-scale” terrorist attacks on Britain and other western targets with the help of supporters in Iran, according to a leaked intelligence report.

Spy chiefs warn that one operative had said he was planning an attack on “a par with Hiroshima and Nagasaki” in an attempt to “shake the Roman throne”, a reference to the West.

Another plot could be timed to coincide with Tony Blair stepping down as prime minister, an event described by Al-Qaeda planners as a “change in the head of the company”.

The report, produced earlier this month and seen by The Sunday Times, appears to provide evidence that Al-Qaeda is active in Iran and has ambitions far beyond the improvised attacks it has been waging against British and American soldiers in Iraq.

There is no evidence of a formal relationship between Al-Qaeda, a Sunni group, and the Shi’ite regime of President Mah-moud Ahmadinejad, but experts suggest that Iran’s leaders may be turning a blind eye to the terrorist organisation’s activities.
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lse7581011 Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:46 PM
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1. Terrah! Terrah! Terrah! n/t
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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:06 PM
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12. RED ALERT! RED ALERT!
All hands to battlestations! Raise shields! Arm phasers and photon torpedos! Full impulse power!
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:46 PM
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2. Anti-Iran propaganda.
Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 02:47 PM by CJCRANE
It's bullshit. They even include a disclaimer:

"There is no evidence of a formal relationship between Al-Qaeda, a Sunni group, and the Shi’ite regime of President Mah-moud Ahmadinejad".
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:47 PM
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3. Here we go with the Iran propaganda again...
Chimpy must be bored with doing high school speeches. Time for some more warring... :mad:
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:52 PM
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4. I am inclined to agree with this comment from a reader at the website:
Generally, when a "report" is leaked, it is leaked for a reason. The comparison to Hiroshima and Nagasaki seems tailor-made to create the specter of a dangerously nuclear Iran in people's minds. In other words, this is part of a pre-invasion publicity campaign against Iran.

Yeah, after all the lies about Iraq, why should anyone believe anything coming from the current governments of the US or the UK?

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:53 PM
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5. mushroom cloud!
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:01 PM
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10. 'shrooms ...



:hippie:
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:54 PM
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6. Thanks for pointing that out.
I didn't even read after the first sentence of the article! (My propaganda detector instantly went off the scale).
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:56 PM
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7. Right-wing blogs discover massive conspiracy to hide WMDs in Iraq
some rumors to go with that propaganda?


http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:16 PM
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15. Just when I thought I'd heard it all...
The RW blogosphere is like a parallel universe. It does explain though how apparently sane people get the most f***ed-up ideas.

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:00 PM
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8. 'according to a leaked intelligence report.'
:eyes:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:00 PM
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9. Noble Resolve 07: Four days of “simulated” nuclear terrorist scenarios in the US & Europe
They seem to want to be prepared

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=ABR20070420&articleId=5444

Noble Resolve 07: Four days of “simulated” nuclear terrorist scenarios in the US & Europe

by DL Abrahamson

Global Research, April 20, 2007
False Flag News

From April 23 to April 27, the elite echelon of the military are running Noble Resolve 07, a four-day marathon of “simulated” terror attacks across the US and Europe. This includes a simulated detonation of a “loose” ten-kiloton nuclear weapon Virginia harbor, smuggled in by a “foreign nation.”

This week Dick Cheney has also been warning of the “very real” threat of a nuclear attack on an American city. Could the Noble Resolve drills be used as a screen for a false-flag attack to be blamed on Iran, Hezbollah, Al-Qaeda, or sheep-dipped Americans like Adam Gadahn?

The drills are being run by Joint Task Force Command (JTFCOM), Northern Command (NORTHCOM), J9 Joint Innovation and Experimentation Directorate, FEMA’s command bunker, the Department of Homeland Security, and Virginia police.

The US Marines are also running “Emerald Express 07” in Virginia on April 24 as part of their Urban Warrior 07 drill package...
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:02 PM
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11. One things for sure, if a nuke does go off in the US the BFEE will be able
to take full advantage of the situation and attack Iran with impunity.
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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:08 PM
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14. It could simply
be more fearmongering but it could also be a meme to set the stage for nuclear terrorism.

Cheney plants this seed in pretty much every public statement he makes.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:35 AM
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19. The noose is tightening on the neocons
so it wouldn't surprise me that they will have something up their sleeves
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:07 PM
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13. Bomb, bomb, bomb... bomb, bomb Iran....
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:18 PM
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16. O.M.F.G
You are a sick and twisted individual, and very funny too...
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:30 PM
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17. You'd be surprised how often I get that.
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barronvonsloat Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:24 AM
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18.  what if you are wrong
It is possible to hate BUSH and understand there is a real threat. Just curious has anyone posting spent any time in the Mideast
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:41 AM
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20. Apropos Of Nothing
Spending time there is not a prerequisite to having an informed opinion. That very premise invalidates your point.
The Professor
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barronvonsloat Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:03 AM
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28. good point
The ProfessorGAC has spoken
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:43 AM
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22. So if we spent time in the mideast, we would want to kill these people?
They are a real threat?

Not from this article...I no more believe that the Shia and the Sunni Al Queda have suddenly become friends to deliver a non-existant nuclear bomb to the UK or Britain than I believed "curveball's" bullshit about a nuclear threat from Iraq.

Are these extremists who would be happy to attack the US? Sure. Are a threat to America...no.

We will never be defeatred by terrorists, so they are not a threat. More of a nuisance. The worst thing they could do to us is obliterate one American city (with a stolen Russian nuke...not the pea shooters they are making in newly nuclear countries), and that would not even come CLOSE to defeating us.

You are buying into the fear propaganda....bigtime.

There will ALWAYS be terrorists. There will ALWAYS be extremists. Why I should think of them as more of a threat than Mother Russia was for many decades?
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:44 AM
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23. oh...and one more thing
If you begin an agument with "what if"...you have already lost. "What if" can be taken ad infinitum for a fear-monger.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 01:10 PM
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30. Just caught up on my reading, and John McCain is responsible
for this perverted little ditty. F'n unbelievable... or at least I wish it was. :grr:
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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:42 AM
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21. I dont understand...
so would al-queda SEND or RECRUIT people to attack the UK ???
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barronvonsloat Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:49 AM
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24. WHAT
I was aware not I posted a premise It does however allow for a different perspective. as far as SEND or RECRUIT does it matter.
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IronScorpio5 Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:51 AM
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25. I was responding to the OP....
not your post....no problem.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 10:54 AM
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26. You've responded to the wrong post, vonSloat.
Different board format than you're used to, I suspect.
VERY different.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:02 AM
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27. If they are planning an attack, they aren't going to F'ING advertise it
I have this eerie nasty feeling that someone is going to get it soon, like maybe France or Germany? Germany upped their warnings for bases in the south, it was all over the news last week, supposedly someone has been casing military installations and embassies in Deutschland.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/dailynews/4033180a12.html
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-23-07 11:15 AM
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29. Well, the German neocons really would love to have it like their brothers overseas
Edited on Mon Apr-23-07 11:15 AM by CGowen
http://www.reuters.com/articlePrint?articleId=USL1916996120070419


BERLIN (Reuters) - Terror suspects should not be presumed innocent until proven guilty, Germany's interior minister said on Thursday, sparking controversy over the extent of new anti-terrorism laws in the liberal country.

The comments by Wolfgang Schaeuble have stirred a debate in Germany where the post-war constitution is seen as enshrining citizens' liberty and protecting them from the state persecution which occurred under the Nazi and Communist regimes.


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