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Mon Dec-21-09 02:16 PM
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How do we get rid of the filibuster? /nt |
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Mon Dec-21-09 02:19 PM
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1. First- Make Senators really filibuster. |
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Every time.
That'll stop 90% of the bullshit.
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Mon Dec-21-09 02:22 PM
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3. If they can make the poor Clerk read entire bills for them aloud, why expend the energy? |
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Mon Dec-21-09 02:41 PM
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7. My idea for reading the bill |
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If they continue to pull this crap, I would have the legislation read into a tape recorder the day before, and then when they demanded it be read...I'd play it at 156 RPMs. It would sound like the chipmunks reading it. Turn 12 hours of reading into 45 minutes.
This would accomplish two things.
- It would meet the requirement that the bill be "read". - It would provide some much needed comic relief for us C-SPAN junkies.
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Mon Dec-21-09 02:47 PM
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8. Hilarious, and might actually comply with the rule! |
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Mon Dec-21-09 03:14 PM
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15. Yup. Force them to follow through on their threats. |
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Make spectacles out of them.
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Mon Dec-21-09 02:21 PM
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2. The Senate can change it's rules at the beginning of a New |
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Term with a simple majority...
Or, they could change it now if they can get 66 Senators to approve it.
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Mon Dec-21-09 02:26 PM
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4. Thanks for the information /nt |
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Mon Dec-21-09 02:34 PM
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5. Don't ask for anything you would not want the Reps to have. NT |
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Mon Dec-21-09 02:38 PM
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6. That is the way it should be. Well said. |
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Mon Dec-21-09 02:52 PM
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10. Too bad. This is a democracy. Both sides get an equal shot. Allowing one Senator to block... |
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Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 02:56 PM by ClassWarrior
...progress is NOT democracy.
NGU.
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Mon Dec-21-09 03:11 PM
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14. Hey I'm not totally opposed to the idea personally - just have to know the effects of what you seek. |
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Mon Dec-21-09 03:04 PM
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11. So the Dems can't get rid of the filibuster |
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to pass meaningful legislation for fear the repubs will get to take advantage of it not being around when they get in power? If and when the repubs regain power, they will most definitely get rid of the filibuster anyway if it will suit their agenda. They will not worry about future problems with the Dems.
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Mon Dec-21-09 03:10 PM
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13. Then why did they not do so pre 08 elections? They threatened it plenty. NT/ |
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Mon Dec-21-09 03:19 PM
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16. Enough moderates gave them their way . |
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They didn't need too. Threats were enough. Believe me if they felt pressured to advance their agenda and getting rid of the filibuster was the only way to accomplish it, they will do it in a heart beat.
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Mon Dec-21-09 02:51 PM
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9. Norman Goldman outlined how it can happen while subbing for Ed today... |
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...but I was working and couldn't give it my whole attention. It'd be great to get the podcast.
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Mon Dec-21-09 03:07 PM
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12. "we" can't get rid of the filibuster unless we elected enough Senators committed to doing so |
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And that just isn't in the cards.
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Mon Dec-21-09 05:10 PM
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18. Norman Goldman said the Majority Leader can force it, and explained how... |
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...but I wasn't giving today's Ed Schultz broadcast my full attention.
NGU.
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Mon Dec-21-09 03:39 PM
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17. I think it takes 75 Senators to change Senate rules. |
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Good luck.
The reason the filibuster will NEVER be removed, is because every Senator, Republican AND Democrat, want their ability to be the next Joe Lieberman or Ben Nelson. They want to step forward and be in the spotlight, to have their demands catered too.
However, there are good reasons for the filibuster to exist as well. In the past it was used more-or-less correctly. The abuse of the filibuster rule is much more recent in our nations history. Without the filibuster... why have a Senate at all? Sure, the Senate puts all states on equal footing, protecting the small states from the big states. But outside of that...?
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