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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:02 PM
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Brittany Murphy apparently ill with flu like symptoms days before death
<http://omg.yahoo.com/news/family-brittany-murphy-was-ill-days-before-death/32971?nc>

Being ruled natural causes pending a toxicology report.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:03 PM
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1. but, still, her husband didn't want an autopsy. plus, I cringed when I read this creepy comment
"In the interview I conducted for the Post, Monjack revealed a rather interesting fact about the couple's history. He claimed to have taken the first editorial photo of a then-underage Murphy, and immediately fell in love with her.

"No one knows this, but I took Brittany's first photograph for a magazine. It was Jane magazine; Brittany was this big," he told me, waving his hand at hip level.

Back then, she was "too young to touch," Monjack said. "To make a long story short, I was very patient."

Indeed."
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:05 PM
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2. And not uncommon at all.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:10 PM
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3. ewwwww.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:22 PM
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4. ditto
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:29 PM
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7. WTF does being Jewish have to do with being attracted to an underage girl?
There is no excuse for such a statement, so save your breath. You would probably just dig that hole deeper with anything you said in an attempt to defend the indefensible.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:38 PM
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8. +100
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:41 PM
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10. I would guess the Jewish reference was to the autopsy reference
Not the underage girl thing. :eyes:
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:50 PM
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14. I understand that the Orthodox disapprove of autopsy
but Conservative authorities don't like *routine* autopsies. A 32-year-old woman's sudden death doesn't sound 'routine' to me. Besides, I don't believe a drug habit or predilection for little girls fits into ANY branch of observant Judaism.
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Gwendolyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:53 PM
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17. It's about the desecration of the body. I don't think it matters how conservative you are.

Also, the dead are supposed to be buried within a day.

This is why there is a shortage of organs and donors in Israel.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 04:09 PM
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19. Actually, it DOES matter
Judaism is not a monolithic body with an infallible primate issuing bulls. There is no consensus - even among adherents of a particular sect:

Autopsies and Jewish Law
Contrary to popular belief, Jewish law does not have an absolute prohibition against autopsy?but there are clear restrictions regarding when it is permissible.


This article provides an Orthodox view on autopsy. Conservative authorities follow similar reasoning, rejecting routine autopsies on the basis of Jewish law and tradition, but some entertain a more expansive definition of the permissibility of autopsies in individual situations where constructive knowledge may be gained. The Reform movement has two 20th-century responsa on this subject, both of which are far more permissive. The first (in 1925) takes the position that construing autopsy as desecration of a corpse has no basis in classical Jewish sources, and that even the chance of contributing to life-saving medical knowledge justifies performing one. The second (in 1981) argues that even gaining knowledge which may help others, near or far, in years ahead is sufficient justification.

http://www.myjewishlearning.com/life/Life_Events/Death_and_Mourning/Contemporary_Issues/The_Body/Autopsies.shtml

Personally, I believe he's using religion as a dodge to keep people from learning the truth about her death - truth which may implicate him as an enabler. But that's just my opinion.
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Gwendolyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 04:19 PM
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21. Thanks for the info. It's been awhile since I've been around the Jewish community.

The article seems to sort out the Reform Jews (whom, I've always labeled the "social democrats" of the religion, lol) from the rest. If you scan further down there's an admonishment against burying the body sans even a small part of it. As far as I recall, most religious people would prefer that a loved one be buried without one to ensure absolutely that the body has not been desecrated in any way, thus rendering the burial null really. Also, there's the 24 hour thing you can't easily get around. The article mentions that too.

Here the coroner hinted that she died of natural causes and I think that would be enough for any old school Jewish person to prefer not to have one.

I agree with you totally though, that there's enough reason to believe that this guy is full of it and just wants to hide their drug use.

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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:51 PM
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15. I was referring to the autopsy. It is against Jewish law.
Sorry, should have addressed the perv aspect as well. I didn't mean to confuse.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:40 PM
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9. So what if he is?
What does that have to do with anything?
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:42 PM
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11. That would explain why he'd be against an autopsy. n/t
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:52 PM
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16. Autopsy is against Jewish law.
Although I have no clue how observant he is. They were reportedly married in a Jewish ceremony however.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 08:14 PM
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26. The most observant Jews are against autopsy.
Less observant ones aren't.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:43 PM
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12. Edited, but this post should be clarified. Far too ambiguous.
Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 03:44 PM by Parker CA
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:48 PM
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13. Jewish law prohibits autopsies. He was responding to comment #1,

presumably, its "her husband didn't want an autopsy" part. That's my guess, any way. :shrug:
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:53 PM
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18. You are correct and I apologize.
I did clarify above -- I was referring to Jewish law and autopsies (they were married in a Jewish ceremony). I should have addressed the perv aspect of the body of the post as well as opposed to just the subject line.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 04:12 PM
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20. I apologize as well
I am slightly on edge from some of the things people have said in here in recent days. It was a knee-jerk reaction on my part, and I'll add that nothing I've ever seen you write gives me reason to think you would have intended your statement as an ethnic/religious slur. I'm sorry.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 04:21 PM
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22. Its all good.
:toast:

My fault for not being clear. And BTW -- I agree with your statement above. While Jewish law prohibits autopsies, it also prohibits mixed marriages. I agree that he is using this as an excuse. It won't work, but we have the law to invoke it.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 05:06 PM
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25. Thanks for the clarification. I didn't know about the Jewish law regarding autopsies.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 04:22 PM
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23. Gross.
Pervert. I hope the cops are looking at him.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:24 PM
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5. Wasn't she one of those excessive dieters? Actress who lost a tremendous amount of weight?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 04:26 PM
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24. In one of the last photos I saw of her
She looked anorexic.
However, I don't have the benefit of knowing that for sure.
Regardless, she was very young and it is sad that she died so unexpectedly.
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