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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:06 PM
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Obama Empowered Lieberman: The Nation


Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid "got to 60" at 1:08 Monday morning.....

But, while Reid appears to have a bill, and a remarkable legislative accomplishment, he does not have a happy caucus. Even as they voted for the measure, progressive senators were saying they hoped reform would not ultimately look like the bill they are now rushing to passage.

Ohio Democrat Sherrod Brown, a key member of the Senate's Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, described himself as "very disappointed" by the broad concessions Reid made to get centrists such as Connecticut Indepebdent Joe Lieberman and Nebraska Democrat Ben Nelson on board.

But the most frustrated Democrat was Senator Russ Feingold, who announced late Sunday that he would cast critical votes for a health-care reform bill that is far weaker than what he had wanted.

To a greater extent than any backer of proposals to establish a government-run "public option," the Wisconsin Democrat had wavered on whether to support a Senate bill that fails to establish competition for private insurers that will be enriched by "reform."

......Feingold spoke openly about those who had undermined the cause of real reform. In so doing, he placed explicit blame for the weakness of the Senate bill where it belongs -- with the Obama administration.

It is no secret that the White House abandoned efforts to pass a real reform measure weeks ago.

Indeed, President Obama's December 6 speech to Democratic senators -- in which he failed to express support either for a government-supported public option or expansion of Medicare -- was seen by many of Capitol Hill as having strengthened the hand of Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman, who demanded that measures designed to hold private insurers to account by stripped from the Senate bill.


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"I've been fighting all year for a strong public option to compete with the insurance industry and bring health care spending down. I continued that fight during recent negotiations, and I refused to sign onto a deal to drop the public option from the Senate bill. Unfortunately, the lack of support from the administration made keeping the public option in the bill an uphill struggle," the senator said. "Removing the public option from the Senate bill is the wrong move, and eliminates $25 billion in savings....

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<http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/508036/reid_gets_to_60_but_dem_senators_grumble_about_weak_bill>
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:10 PM
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1. No surprise - first he empowered Baucus.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:11 PM
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3. ..... Then Snowe
Notice how he never empowered any real liberals?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:10 PM
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2. Why would the prez actually do that??
Why??
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:11 PM
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4. Because a massive favor to the insurance lobby was his goal all along?
:shrug:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:14 PM
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7. I find it difficult to believe that.
It's like science fiction.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:23 PM
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8. huh?
it's more like a routine occurrence.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:14 PM
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6. Lieberman is DLC, Obama is a New Democrat
"I am a New Democrat," he told the New Democrat Coalition, according to two sources at the White House session. http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/131210/uh_oh:_obama_...
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:26 PM
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9. Because he is a corporatist sell out, clearly. nt
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:12 PM
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5. IT's a Chess Move to help the Democrats gain the Minority in 2010
Some next-level shit here!
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 06:45 PM
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13. LOL
(but not really funny)
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:36 PM
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10. Lieberman was motivated to screw over liberals
Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 03:37 PM by SpartanDem
as soon as he heard that was enthusiam for a medicare buy he want it out. Lieberman was so driven by spite that he was willing go against the the desire of his consitiuents no amount aarm twisting can convince a person driven by hate.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:37 PM
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11. Luckily Rahm and Obama were on the same page.
From the last week in the press, from Gibbs and other aides, you can tell they're not too fond of liberals.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 03:47 PM
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12. Notice that absolutely NO ONE is speaking out about how Obama STOOD UP
For the policies he asked us all to support in HIS NAME.

It's shameful, a disgrace.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 06:50 PM
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14. You've been gripping the entire fucking time,
not pushing any policies that Obama asked you to...
but anything negative on him and his policies.....

and if he asked you to push, you didn't push, you pushed back

But ok, Obama should have kicked all of their asses,
beat them to a bloody pulp and
then hung them on the line to dry.
The people would have been in the arena cheering the wild man on.
Sure. Whatever.
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