Firefox 3.5 is now the most used browser version worldwide.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version-ww-weekly-200827-200951



More info at Slashdot.

[SharonAnn]

1. I've been using it for more than a year and I love it.

[T Wolf]

2. 3.5.6 here and I prefer it to all the others. Sometimes I have to use it, Safari and

Netscape simultaneously and Firefox is (IMO) much better.

And don't even talk to me about Explorer. I won't have that abomination on my computer.


On edit - but what do we Americans use? That is the only thing that counts, dontcha know?

[Not Me]

3. A little bit of mozilla wishful thinking

When you add IE 6, 7 and 8 together, they are still king of the hill. But nice acceptance increase at midyear 2009 for Firefox.

[Dawgs]

4. Google Chrome is much better.

It's faster, never crashes, and doesn't stall when needing to install some stupid update.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

11. I haven't had a Firefox crash for at least two years now.

And I use it in both Windows and Linux. Watch videos a lot. Lots of tabs open.

[CTD]

21. And has the added "benefit" of sharing all of your browsing info with the Google mothership

Remember what Google is in the market of selling. They give away their software and search and mapping services, so it's not that.

[rocktivity]

5. I use Firefox exclusively at home

and I use a Macintosh--I like it better than even Safari!

:headbang:
rocktivity

[meegbear]

10. Me too!

The Google Chrome beta for the Mac is out. It rocks in Windows, so I'll be probably switching to that when it's finalized.

[garybeck]

6. look more closely at the chart. if you add IE6, IE7, and IE8, it far surpasses Firefox

so the issue is more about versions than programs. if you look at the trend, very soon IE8 will take over all the others, as more people upgrade.

[tonysam]

8. I have used the latest IE and have been using Opera

Once in a while I use Safari. I stopped using Firefox after I was having problems with it.

[garybeck]

14. I tried Firefox a few times and ended up going back to IE

the problem is that most web programmers test their pages on IE first, before anything else. MANY stop there. If it looks good in IE, that's good enough.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

17. Given that Firefox's share is now around 30%, that's kind of suicidal.

IE-only pages are quickly becoming a thing of the past.

Due to the crazy corporatism, that may be less true to US-only sites (like home banking etc).

[Tesha]

23. Lots of corporate "Intranet" Pages are still IE-only...

...but out in the real world, FireFox and the various WebKit-based
browsers (Safari, Chrome, others) are definitely sweeping IE away.

Tesha

[Statistical]

31. Yeah our intranet is IE only and sad thing is we have a corp policy to

support open source software.

Specifically we had firefox 3.5 installed and is suppose to be the primary browser but can't load intranet.

IE Tab works for that but it is still sad.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

16. The sum of the IEs' percentages is still declining.

While the sum of all Firefoxes is increasing. Very slightly, but increasing.

Not long ago, Firefox was at 10%. Now it's over 30%. It's not unlikely it'll overtake IE within a year or two. (Maybe helped by Chrome biting chunks off IE.)

[inna]

7. I use Opera and I'm INCREDULOUS that it's not the most popular browser.

It's simply the best, I've tried them all (or almost all) extensively.

Opera is way, way, WAY underrated. It's the fastest, the safest, the most convenient and customizable browser with superior options.

It's simply the best there is, IMO.

[tonysam]

9. I agree with that. There are a lot of options on it.

n/t

[inna]

13. I typically have literally dozens and dozens of tabs per window,

and several windows open (to a total of up to 100 pages open at the same time) - it would crash any other browser.

I love the duplicate function, paste and go, open in a background tab/window function, superior search functions, etc. etc. etc.


Cheers to a fellow Opera fan! :toast: :hi: :fistbump:

[ElboRuum]

20. I've used it, and it's OK.

However, that was back a while (forget which version) and there were so many pages it couldn't render properly that I said, "nice try, call me when it's ready". Is it ready? No one called me.

[Wickerman]

12. I'd read that chart as IE is having poor acceptance of I.E. 8

and that Netscape is gaining ground on them quickly with 3.5. IE still hold the market share but the switch from 7 to 8 isn't happening as quickly as Mozilla 3.0 to 3.5.

I'm a 3.5 users and lately I've been experiencing something I've never had before - crashes! Got used to them with IE at work but on my home machine couldn't imagine them until recently.

[GreenArrow]

15. Firefox through version 2 was excellent

versions 3 and up unusable, IMO.

[ElboRuum]

18. It's very good, if bloaty.

Load times are generally increasing, I've noticed. Nonetheless, excellent once it does load in.

Edited to add:

The strength of Firefox is in its plug-ins. Since I've installed NoScript (about 2-3 years ago) I've not had a single piece of malware nor a single virus/worm install itself.

[yowzayowzayowza]

34. BetterPrivacy is a good addition to NoScript. n/t

[goldcanyonaz]

19. I use Opera. It's my favorite browser.

[HopeHoops]

25. I've never used it, but it is one of the oldest, isn't it?

I think I read that in a CSS reference and it left me with a very favorable opinion of it. I use Firefox on both PC and Mac and the Mac version blows away Safari on load times. Still, Safari is a pretty decent browser also. IE just plain sucks, and we're talking the naughty bits of large farm animals here.

[goldcanyonaz]

30. I use Opera on my PowerBook G4 and it's very fast. Firefox hangs a lot on this laptop.

[inna]

33. Opera is documentedly THE fastest browser. But you need to adjust the default settings,

if you use multiple (up to 100 in my case) tabs/open pages.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7291020&mesg_id=7291104

(and the post below).



And no, LOL - I do NOT work for Opera! I just love it, that's all. :)

[inna]

29. Cheers to another Opera fan!

:hi:


:toast:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7291020&mesg_id=7291104

[Heywood J]

22. Despite the fact it crashes on me twice per week

when memory usage exceeds 1.5GB in RAM and 1.3GB in the pagefile, I still use Firefox. They keep upgrading the version number, but it doesn't seem to get all that better under the hood. It also needs a native 64-bit version.

[HopeHoops]

24. I used Netscape until Firefox came out.

Yes, I know it is a bastard child of Netscape.

My first browser was Chameleon, but I don't think that's been around for many years. It handled HTML 1.0 well enough and the package accessed Gopher, Archie, Veronica and Jughead just fine.

On Edit:

In the "weird shit we should forget but still hangs out in our brains" department, the company that made Chameleon was NetManage.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

37. Ha! As if Gopher, Archie, Veronica and Jughead...

were NOT "weird shit we should forget but still hangs out in our brains". :rofl:

(I'm an even older oldie actually. Harken back from the CP/M-8080 era, actually. BBS's and all that. THAT is weird shit.)

[HopeHoops]

38. Oh, I go back there too. Assembly language on an Osborne even - 8080-CP/M.

Although I was doing assembly on a 6502 well before that. I hand coded a bubble sort on the Apple II using Dan's Disk Utility to load sectors and tweak the bytes (before I had an assembler). The Apple II made the sort fairly simple since all you had to do was swap six bytes (three per string), two for the address and one for the length each. The whole thing fit in two sectors (less than 512 bytes).

There were some really cool BBS sites out there at the time. It was almost easier to get answers then than it is now, well at least when you are asking a specific question and hoping someone will answer. Obviously it is easier to just punch in a search now and that often solves the problem.

The first "programming" I did was on my dad's HP calculator with RPN in '75 or so. It had something like 9 memory locations and 460 or so instructions. You could save programs as functions so that was cool. I spent a lot of hours messing with that and wrote hundreds of flow charts. I really don't remember how I figured it out, but I wrote a lunar lander program for it. That was fun.

Flowcharts? Yes, I still write flowcharts for complicated functions. I've had whiteboards (and chalkboards before that) absolutely crammed with flowcharts in rather tiny print. As best I can tell, it is an ancient art now. There is no substitute for confirming the logic of an algorithm.

One of my favorite tricks was mapping the keyboard on the C=64 to all of the functions of its extremely advanced sound chip. I turned the thing into a synthesizer keyboard. Anyway, all I did was to create two pages of jump vectors with four bytes in 0 page (2 per page, obviously). I took the ASCII code of the keypress, shifted it left to double it, and used the carrier bit to determine which of the two pages to use. Then all I had to do was lift the two address bytes out using indexed-indirect (or indirect-indexed - I can't remember which of the two terms fits that operation) and pushed them on the stack. Then all I had to do was execute an RTS and boom - it was executing the intended code.

I don't think I've coded in assembly for a good 20 years, but damn do I miss it. There's nothing else like it.

[tammywammy]

26. I use Google Chrome now

Never crashes on me like Firefox.

[HopeHoops]

39. Chrome exists for one reason: advertising revenue.

It is in the license agreement. All they are doing is collecting your browsing data so they can sell it and hit you with ads.

[bikebloke]

27. Firefox 2.0.0.2 here.

I can't update any further. It sometimes runs a bit stiff on pages with heavy with advert files. But I'm waiting until next Spring before thinking about a hardware update.

[ShadowLiberal]

28. I don't think it's really fair to count different version of IE & FireFox separately

[PeaceNikki]

32. It's important data to gather for web development.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

35. Not much into the webby side of development, but

major versions are differently quirky enough that they're usually treated like different browsers, correct?

[PeaceNikki]

36. Indeedly.