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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 08:06 PM
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Ugandan Pastors Demand Apology from Rick Warren
A Martin Ssempa and three other Ugandan pastors have written to Saddleback Church pastor Rick Warren demanding an apology for his statement opposing Uganda’s proposed Anti-Homosexuality Bill.

In a letter sent sent to Warren, with copies provided to Christianity Today and Grove City College professor Warren Throckmorton, the four pastors write on behalf of a task force which met in the offices of the Minister of Ethics and Integrity, James Nsaba Buturo, who has been an ardent supporter of the bill. The pastors say that the bill has been “greatly misrepresented” and describes Warren’s opposition to the bill as “unwarrented abuse.”

This bill has been greatly misrepresented by some homosexual activists causing hysteria and we take this opportunity to give you the background, facts and response to the concerns you raised. A special meeting of 20 denominational heads met on Thursday 17th Dec in the offices of the minister of Ethics and Integrity, examined your letter and formed a joint task force to respond to you as well as help support the parliament in the passage of this bill. We are further distressed by your unwarranted abuse of our duly elected officials who are in the process of making laws in the fulfillment of their mission and make demand that you biblically issue an apology for having wronged us as demonstrated by the facts of this letter.

http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/21/18656#comments
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 08:12 PM
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1. "biblically issue an apology"?!
Screw them! The Ugandan gov't should be hauled before the International Court.

I'm stunned that these American bible-thumpers took a stand against this abominable law. Hats off to Rachel Maddow!!!! She saved some lives!
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 08:39 PM
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2. Yeah we want an apology and we want it ...um ... biblically.
Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 08:41 PM by Monk06
:rofl: :rofl:

Biblically; the adjective that goes with everything!!!

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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:30 PM
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3. i'd give them a biblical f-off
as in: verily i say to thee, fuck off.
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:00 PM
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4. there is always some room for a little tweaking...
verily, verily, i sayeth unto thee. fucketh off!

:-)
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:23 PM
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6. Yup, they definitely need to fuck off.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:05 PM
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5. You know the Ugandan ministers have messed up when He sides with Rick Warren
regarding homosexuality.

Come Judgment Day, I'm glad I'm not one of them. Dumbasses.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:33 PM
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7. Warren was closely associated with Ssempa in Uganda
and said nothing about the impending legislation for a long time.

here is a longer earlier story on their relationship

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-01-07/the-truth-about-rick-warren-in-africa/full/

Rick Warren's Africa Problem.

However, an investigation into Warren’s involvement in Africa reveals a web of alliances with right-wing clergymen who have sidelined science-based approaches to combating AIDS in favor of abstinence-only education. More disturbingly, Warren’s allies have rolled back key elements of one of the continent’s most successful initiative, the so-called ABC program in Uganda. Stephen Lewis, the United Nations’ special envoy for HIV/AIDS in Africa, told the New York Times their activism is “resulting in great damage and undoubtedly will cause significant numbers of infections which should never have occurred.”

Warren’s man in Uganda is a charismatic pastor named Martin Ssempa. The head of the Makerere Community Church, a rapidly growing congregation, Ssempe enjoys close ties to his country’s First Lady, Janet Museveni, and is a favorite of the Bush White House. In the capitol of Kampala, Ssempa is known for his boisterous crusading. Ssempa’s stunts have included burning condoms in the name of Jesus and arranging the publication of names of homosexuals in cooperative local newspapers while lobbying for criminal penalties to imprison them.


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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:26 AM
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8. They Have Every Right To Be Pissed.
Rick Warren sounded and acted like a homophobic asshole for years, and now suddenly he has compassion for those filthy gays? I call bullshit!
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