MannyGoldstein
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:52 PM
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Poll question: When Insurers Violate The Health Care Bill, What Will Happen? |
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Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 09:54 PM by MannyGoldstein
Bill's worth little unless it's enforced, yes? Will enforcement be more like what was done to enforce the anti-torture laws, AIG executive salary caps, and Fourth Amendment (re: warrantless wiretapping)? Or will it be more like (fill in an example of something Obama's DOJ actually enforced here)?
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:54 PM
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Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 09:54 PM by WeDidIt
most of the provisions of the legislation go into effect on 2014.
How about work to get more Progressives into the Congress, especially the Senate, between now and then? You've got at least four Senate possibilities, and eight if you really try, in 2010 alone!
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:55 PM
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2. So You're Assuming Obama's A One-Termer? nt |
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Tue Dec-22-09 10:12 AM
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21. Nope, my base working assumption is, he's got a second term all sewn up. n/t |
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Mon Dec-21-09 09:59 PM
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3. As a citizen, I would take them to court...and appeal to my Congressman/Senators |
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And, the DOJ will stand as a watchdog to ensure that corproations do follow the law.
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:03 PM
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6. So, you would take them to court and fight what-ever disease isn't being covered? |
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Simultaneously?
Wow... Superman LIVES!
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:23 PM
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10. If the alternative is rolling over and playing dead, yes I'll fight. |
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I'm not superman, but I won't shy away from that kind of fight. And if I don't have the energy, then my family and friends will help. The system, including the DOJ, will work if we as citizens insist upon it. A government of the people only works when the people insist upon it.
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:01 PM
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4. I heard - maybe on Countdown, I really can't remember that a lot of the enforcement |
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will up to the state where the violation(s) occured. So it will all depend on who the State Insurance Commissioner or Attorney General is.
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:04 PM
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16. Then Texas is screwed. |
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Our government is in collusion with industry. Any kind of deregulation or limits on liability, they are 100% for it.
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:02 PM
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5. I said other because it will be up to the states...I think. That's where |
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we have the problem and maybe that is one of the things that needs to be pushed.....watchdog committee for these people. We need an agency overseeing all this shit.
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:07 PM
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7. "I'll take door number three Alex, for billions of dollars down the insurance company drain..." |
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You KNEW what my vote would be! BHN
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:08 PM
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8. not a fucking thing will happen |
Hugin
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:15 PM
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I'm sure any infractions of the regulations will be in the 'non-actionable' twilight zone... Just like the 401(k) rip-offs. All perfectly 'legal'.
Yes, there will be lawsuits and somebody will leave an Attorney a lovely inheritance... But, this is about Health Care. Not, about legalities. Right? :eyes:
Who put lawyers in charge of Health Care, anyway?
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:29 PM
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11. DOJ will prosecute those that complain about the health industry |
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:33 PM
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12. Holy #$%&. My Post's Rec Count Is > 0!!! |
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A new age really has dawned here at DU.
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:42 PM
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13. Just wait until the NRA starts a bill mandating that everyone must own a handgun. |
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Then this place will really be hoppin'. :thumbsup:
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:53 PM
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15. I lived in Kennesaw, GA where that is the law and so I broke it...no biggie. |
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There were absolutely zero break-ins in that town however.
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Mon Dec-21-09 10:50 PM
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14. enforcement?....surely you jest.....n/t |
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:06 PM
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17. I voted "sternly-worded letter", but... why do insurers need to violate? |
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Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 11:07 PM by jtrockville
This is the industry who gave us made-up terms like "pre-existing condition". They'll just make up new ways to screw us.
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Mon Dec-21-09 11:45 PM
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In fact, I have asked, several times, about the enforcement mechanisms of this bill, and I have not yet even gotten an answer, much less a good answer.
I'd like to know what the enforcement mechanisms are. If we have to depend on the Justice Department to prosecute violations of these regulations, we're in deep trouble (unless fines in the billions of dollars are authorized and plea bargains are not allowed). Even that, I fear, wouldn't be enough.
Kill the bill. Forcing people to buy insurance is no more the answer to a failed health care system than forcing people to buy houses is the solution to homelessness.
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Tue Dec-22-09 12:55 AM
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19. Instead of paying twice what other nations do for heathcare... |
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we will pay three times and get inferior care.
For profit heathcare is just that, for profit.
The medical insurance industry is ******* led, sucking the blood out of the citizens of our country.
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Tue Dec-22-09 12:57 AM
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20. said miscreant will be renditioned and tortured by Syrian eunuchs and their dogs. |
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Edited on Tue Dec-22-09 12:59 AM by WT Fuheck
The Obama DOJ is apparently on permanent vacation. They don't seem to be doing anything at all, no matter what the crime.
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