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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:28 PM
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Obama Defends Self Against Black Critics, Says He's President Of The Entire United States
Mon, 2009-12-21 19:12.

By: Darlene Superville, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama on Monday rebutted critics who say he isn't showing enough compassion toward black America, citing his sweeping health care reform as one example he says "will be hugely important" for African-Americans.

Obama said another example is the billions of dollars in aid to states included in the economic stimulus bill, money that was used to save thousands of teachers, firefighters and police officers from losing their jobs. He said many of those workers are black.

"So this notion, somehow, that because there wasn't a transformation overnight that we've been neglectful is just simply, factually not accurate," Obama said in an Oval Office interview with April Ryan of American Urban Radio Networks.

But the president acknowledged there are limits to what a president can do for any class of people.

"The only thing I cannot do is, by law, I cannot pass laws that say 'I'm just helping black folks.'I'm the president of the entire United States," Obama said, giving his standard answer to questions about the economic and other disparities facing blacks.

"What I can do is make sure that I am passing laws that help all people, particularly those who are most vulnerable and most in need," he said. "That in turn is going to help lift up the African-American community."

MORE...

AP: http://www.610cktb.com/news/56/1041728
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:30 PM
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1. Groan.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:33 PM
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2. I was gonna write a sort of long rebuttal to Obama.
Then I noticed you had summarized everything I had to say with that one word.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:36 PM
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3. He's not my President any more.
And I'm white. I gave him his chance, I voted for him, I was hopeful on Inauguration Day, but now I've disowned him. Bailing out banks and insurance companies for screwing up their own private businesses, escalating a war that he should be retiring, and now mangling an opportunity for health insurance reform, instead caving to what insurance companies want. Sorry, he's gone in my book as well as his allies. I'm already studying who I want to support in the the midterm elections and 2012.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:55 PM
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11. Maybe vote for some republicans? I guess that'll show 'em.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:10 AM
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15. It no longer matters whether Republicans or Democrats are currently in control,
as powerful moneyed interests get their way no matter which party is in control. If there ever was any doubt that was true, the doubt has been obliterated by the current debacle over health care. So the "threat" of Republicans regaining power doesn't carry anything close to the weight it once did.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 06:11 PM
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26. You must have been out of the country the previous eight years.
Maybe you should join forces with those on the far-right who say the same as you.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:18 AM
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17. Why do you think that's
the only choice?
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liquid diamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:21 AM
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20. They don't get it.
I'm not happy with all of Obama's decisions, but he's no fucking republican. Anyone that believes dems and repubs are one in the same was asleep during Bush's two terms.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 02:55 AM
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24. They are one and the same now.
Obama continuing Bush's program lays bare that fact. And the health care debacle exposes they myth that Democrats aren't simply corporate shills (well, except for Kucinich, but he has been marginalized by the media machine). They really are the same thing now, they just come in different colors and flavors. But with the same center. It no longer matters which party is in power because moneyed interests always win out, no matter what.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 01:47 AM
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23. if only this guy would come back on the campaign trail...
bvar 22 posted this yesterday:

We have the Video.
The TRUTH cannot be denied or rewritten.

Here is an example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZG8Zq8V54k
Where is THIS Obama today?

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NoUsername Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:37 PM
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4. I thought this was going to be an article from The Onion. n/t
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:40 PM
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5. He can help the entire working class, including all races, by:
Not escalating the Afghanistan war and sending a military that is disproportionately composed of the poor to die;

Not making deals with Big Pharma and the health insurance industry that keeps costs high;

Focusing on a single payer system that provides medical care to all persons for the benefit of the whole population;

Not supporting Bush/Cheney policies like secrecy;

Investigating crimes against humanity which were committed against minorities;

Stopping targeted killings using drones that kill more innocent civilians than terrorists;

Stopping imperialistic policies that victimize "peasants" in Central and South America.

Or, to make a long rebuttal short--"Groan."
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:41 PM
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6. Corporate wealth isn't the whole country

He isn't governing for the PEOPLE...

Of any COLOR...

Only the color of money counts here.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:18 AM
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18. Wrong.
Again. :eyes:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:41 PM
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7. from Amy Goodman's headlines today: White Businesses Received Vast Majority of Stimulus
Report: White Businesses Received Vast Majority of Stimulus Loans

An investigation by New American Media has found that loans handed out to struggling small businesses as part of President Obama’s stimulus package have largely shut out minority businesses—especially those owned by African Americans and Latinos. Over 91 percent of the special small business loans went to white-owned businesses. Three percent went to Latino-owned businesses, just 1.5 percent to black-owned firms. Overall, white-owned businesses received over $130 million in loans through the program, while Hispanic-owned businesses got $4 million and black-owned businesses less than $2 million. In five states—Alabama, Arkansas, New Hampshire, South Dakota, and Wyoming—every single firm that received a loan was white-owned. In eight other states, including Louisiana and Nevada, all but one loan went to a white-owned firm.


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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:02 AM
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13. ALERT!!! Factmonger on the board!! ALERT!!
nt
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:18 AM
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19. more...
"The data raises troubling questions" and should trigger an investigation," says Oren Sellstrom of San Francisco's Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights. "This should be a red flag for the SBA and the banks. It gives us the indication that something may be amiss and further explanation is warranted."

Census figures put black business ownership at 5 percent and Hispanic business ownership at about 7 percent -- more than double the numbers getting these SBA-backed loans.

At the SBA in Washington, spokesman Jonathan Swain argued racial disparities in the ARC loan program don't paint the full picture of the agency's lending practices. Many of the SBA's other loan products, he says, have large minority business participation. For example, he says, minority-owned businesses receive 29 percent of loans given through the SBA's regular lending program and 37 percent of Microloans doled out by the agency.

"It's hard to look at the ARC program by itself," he told NAM. "It's just one tool in the tool box, just one tool in the array to help small business in these tough economic times."

One reason for the extremely low level of minority participation in the ARC loan program, he maintains, is that the Recovery Act specifically prohibits the agency from allowing an ARC loan to be used to refinance a regular SBA loan, which minority firms are more likely to have.

That explanation isn't enough for minority business and civil rights groups, however.

Sellstrom of the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights isn't convinced by that argument. "You would think that minority owned firms could use $35,000 for a lot of uses other than paying down SBA loans."

Sellstom said SBA's response only underscores the need for further investigation. "It's often the case that the first explanation leads to further questions," he said.

Javier Palomarez, the president and chief executive officer of the United States Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, says the ARC loan program was poorly designed and "destined to fail."

When Congress was drafting the stimulus package, Palomarez said, his agency and other minority business groups argued the severity of America's recession should have led to the government handing out loans to struggling small businesses directly - rather than simply backing up loans from the very banks that caused the country's economic recession.

But the SBA and the banks lobbied against direct government financing of small business, he said, and so Congress devised a $35,000 loan program that requires a small business to wade through nearly the same paperwork needed to obtain one of SBA's regular $2 million loans.

Because of the paperwork and the small sums involved, "most banks don't want to participate in the loan program, and many of those that are participating are restricting applications only to long-term clients."

And those long-term clients often exclude small, minority businesses, which banks see as "risky."

"There's been a dramatic rise in the risk profile of small businesses," Palomarez said "and that is even more pronounced among minority entrepreneurs.

"African American and Hispanic entrepreneurs often self-financed their start-ups or expansions, meaning, that they tapped into their own net worth ... taking out home equity loans or second mortgages to invest in their communities and create jobs."

"These businesses did not get a bailout and, while the Administration has been generous with tax credits for struggling businesses, the banks that caused this problem are nowhere to be seen," he said.

James Ballentine, senior vice president of the American Bankers Association, told New America Media the banks have nothing to do with the racial disparities apparent in the stimulus' small business loans.

"When somebody comes to us, we don't look at their race," he said. "The can be red, white, brown, or green. The only thing we look at is their credit worthiness."

The main problem, Balletine, said, is "there's been a real lack of marketing and as a result, very few lenders have participated." He noted that in the six months since the ARC Loan program was first announced, the SBA has been able to underwrite fewer than 5,000 loans.

But Sellstrom of the Lawyers Committee says the bankers' analysis doesn't address the question of the racial inequities. The fact that there's been little marketing doesn't mean that nobody is being told about the opportunities. It just means that it's going on in less formal ways, and those informal channels are the ones that minority businesses are not privy to."

"The breakdown is that people of color are not present at the banks," added Anthony Robinson of MBELDEF." And the government that's pushing these benefits through are not sensitive to the fact that we are not involved in this distribution network.

"So to solve this problem we need to incorporate people of color into the distribution chain of banks, business, and government. Otherwise, the flaws of the system will only magnify the inequality that's at the center of our recession."

http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=d40e83db3ee2eb66d27effb8a50ac34f

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Not to nitpick, but according to the map at the link, there are no Black owned businesses in NH, SD & WY. Clearly there are issues getting the word out and there are some technical conflicts with other lending programs, but it would be entirely unfair to blame this discrepancy solely on Obama.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:43 PM
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8. Sister Souljah Redux. Sux worse than when Clinton did it.
:puke:
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:45 PM
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9. Oh that pesky base! Picky picky.
Obama doesn't need the black community to win reelection, does he? Ach, don't worry. They'll get over it.

Has Obama ever been photographed with any prominent black leader?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:35 AM
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 01:01 AM
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22. The black community (along with the Hispanic, Asian and Native American ones) has not abandoned him
Not by a LONG shot.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:53 PM
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10. .
Edited on Mon Dec-21-09 11:53 PM by HughMoran
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:58 PM
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12. why did you delete that post? I am sure the folks upthread
would have enjoyed the nice things you had to say about them!! I know I enjoyed it!
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WT Fuheck Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:08 AM
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14. Especially the Goldman Sachs part of the United States.
He takes *good* care of them.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:17 AM
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16. He's done a hell of a lot for black folk...
that have a multinational Corporation.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 03:16 AM
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25. Barack Obama is the best thing that ever happened to wall street.
I feel bad for people who can't buy stocks. At least if you can afford to buy a health care stock you kind of make your money back. If not you are so screwed. And Barack Obama is enabler number one. Listen to Dylan ratigan. He knows the stock market and he knows when the system is being set up against the people.
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