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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 11:58 AM
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Huff Post: Leadership Obama Style: Pretty Speeches Compromised Values and the Quest...

....For the lowest common denominator....

This is a MUST read in its entirety article.

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Consider the president's leadership style, which has now become clear: deliver a moving speech, move on, and when push comes to shove, leave it to others to decide what to do if there's a conflict, because if there's a conflict, he doesn't want to be anywhere near it.

Health care is a paradigm case. When the president went to speak to the Democrats last week on Capitol Hill, he exhorted them to pass the bill. According to reports, though, he didn't mention the two issues in the way of doing that, the efforts of Senators like Ben Nelson to use this as an opportunity to turn back the clock on abortion by 25 years, and the efforts of conservative and industry-owned Democrats to eliminate any competition for the insurance companies that pay their campaign bills. He simply ignored both controversies and exhorted.

Leadership means heading into the eye of the storm and bringing the vessel of state home safely, not going as far inland as you can because it's uncomfortable on the high seas. This president has a particular aversion to battling back gusting winds from his starboard side (the right, for the nautically challenged) and tends to give in to them. He just can't tolerate conflict, and the result is that he refuses to lead.

We have seen the same pattern of pretty speeches followed by empty exhortations on issue after issue. The president has, on more than one occasion, gone to Wall Street or called in its titans (who have often just ignored him and failed to show up) to exhort them to be nice to the people they're foreclosing at record rates, yet he has done virtually nothing for those people. His key program for preventing foreclosures is helping 4 percent of those "lucky" enough to get into it, not the 75 percent he promised, and many of the others are having their homes auctioned out from right under them because of some provisions in the fine print. One in four homeowners is under water and one in six is in danger of foreclosure. Why we're giving money to banks instead of two-year loans -- using the model of student loans -- to homeowners to pay their mortgages (on which they don't have to pay interest or principal for two years, while requiring their banks to renegotiate their interest rates in return for saving the banks from "toxic assets") is something the average person doesn't understand. And frankly, I don't understand it, either. I thought I voted Democratic in the last election.


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Like most Americans I talk to, when I see the president on television, I now change the channel the same way I did with Bush. With Bush, I couldn't stand his speeches because I knew he meant what he said. I knew he was going to follow through with one ignorant, dangerous, or misguided policy after another. With Obama, I can't stand them because I realize he doesn't mean what he says -- or if he does, he just doesn't have the fire in his belly to follow through. He can't seem to muster the passion to fight for any of what he believes in, whatever that is. He'd make a great queen -- his ceremonial addresses are magnificent -- but he prefers to fly Air Force One at 60,000 feet and "stay above the fray."

It's the job of the president to be in the fray. It's his job to lead us out of it, not to run from it. It's his job to make the tough decisions and draw lines in the sand. But Obama really doesn't seem to want to get involved in the contentious decisions. They're so, you know, contentious. He wants us all to get along. Better to leave the fights to the Democrats in Congress since they're so good at them. He's like an amateur boxer who got a coupon for a half day of training with Angelo Dundee after being inspired by the tapes of Mohammed Ali. He got "float like a butterfly" in the morning but never made it to "sting like a bee."

Do you think Americans ought to have one choice of health insurance plans the insurance companies don't control, or don't you? I don't want to hear that it would sort of, kind of, maybe be your preference, all other things being equal. Do you think we ought to use health care as a Trojan Horse for right-wing abortion policies? Say something, for God's sake.

He doesn't need a chief of staff. He needs someone to shake him until he feels something strongly enough not just to talk about it but to act. He's increasingly appearing to the public, and particularly to swing voters, like Dukakis without the administrative skill. And although he is likely to squeak by with a personal victory in 2012 if the economy improves by then, he may well do so with a Republican Congress. But then I suppose he'll get the bipartisanship he always wanted.


Much, Much, More at:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/drew-westen/leadership-obama-style-an_b_398813.html



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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:00 PM
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1. Unrecommends already? No time to even have read the first paragraph

Let alone the linked article!
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:02 PM
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4. A) It's more Huffington Post bullshit
B) It's been posted about a half-dozen times on this board in the last 48 hours.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:02 PM
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5. That's been posted here five or six times already. NT
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:12 PM
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11. So what? I (and many others, I'm sure) haven't seen it yet. The more exposure, the better.

KR for the OP.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:14 PM
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15. So we've already read it, which is why some could unrec quickly.
That's an answer to the OP's question.


Personally, I didn't unrec until a long time after it had been posted.
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:01 PM
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2. K&R
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:01 PM
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3. K&R!!
:bounce:
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:05 PM
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6. .......

:bounce:
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:08 PM
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7. yep . . .
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:08 PM
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8. Huffington Post has become a cess pool of anti-Obama propaganda
Edited on Tue Dec-22-09 12:12 PM by NJmaverick
not worth visiting anymore.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:12 PM
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10. Unreadable...
If you read nothing but the Huffington Post, you'd think that this Administration was floundering. They never miss a chance to paint Obama in the worst possible light.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:14 PM
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14. Ms Huffington stake her reputation on bold proclamations that Obama couldn't win unless he listened
to her. Now she bashes him every chance she gets, in a pathetic effort to salvage her tattered credibility.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:35 PM
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18. It's a shame....
The party really is big enough for both of them.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 11:34 PM
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23. Did you read the article or are you so locked into your belief in Obama

That you can't believe factually proveable observations about the ma....

Read it. And, then refute it. Not to me but to yourself.

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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:10 PM
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9. K&R to the OP
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:12 PM
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12. K & R nt
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:13 PM
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13. K&R, thanks!
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:26 PM
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16. Obama is a famously clever man, but appears to be 'too clever by half',
Edited on Tue Dec-22-09 12:28 PM by Joe Chi Minh
in the sense that he doesn't realise that the 'penny will' eventually 'drop', as regards his clearly empty, even meaningless, rhetoric. Alas, Blair was much given to precisely that kind of rhetoric. It was as if he were urging us to aspire to some noble enterprise, he could not quite put his finger on ... but we'd 'get it' intuitively. We were on the same wave-length, after all. A kind of mystagogy.

I noticed quite early that Obama used to declaim with a certain rhythm, certain cadences, and the moment I heard it, I had to switch it off. He seems to speak more conversationally, less patroninsingly now, but apparently not always more informatively.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:27 PM
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17. From the same link
"Obama, like so many Democrats in Congress, has fallen prey to the conventional Democratic strategic wisdom: that the way to win the center is to tack to the center.

But it doesn't work that way.

You want to win the center? Emanate strength. Emanate conviction. Lead like you know where you're going (and hopefully know what you're talking about).

People in the center will follow if you speak to their values, address their ambivalence (because by definition, on a wide range of issues, they're torn between the right and left), and act on what you believe. FDR did it. LBJ did it. Reagan did it. Even George W. Bush did it, although I wish he hadn't.

But you have to believe something.

I don't honestly know what this president believes. But I believe if he doesn't figure it out soon, start enunciating it, and start fighting for it, he's not only going to give American families hungry for security a series of half-loaves where they could have had full ones, but he's going to set back the Democratic Party and the progressive movement by decades, because the average American is coming to believe that what they're seeing right now is "liberalism," and they don't like what they see. I don't, either.

What's they're seeing is weakness, waffling, and wandering through the wilderness without an ideological compass. That's a recipe for going nowhere fast -- but getting there by November."




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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 04:18 PM
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25. His conclusions remind me of what I wrote in my journal in 08/2008 during
the Presidential campaign. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6793972&mesg_id=6793972

The 2nd half of the entry was why standing for nothing in particular other than a promise to play nice w/ everyone doesn't grab independents. I used the analogy of a ball game and said that going for that non-position would for independents be like "rooting for the umpire".

In other, earlier entries I also mentioned the complete monopoly the int'l corporatist financiers had on Obama's economic advisory positions, and exorted labor to demand at least one voice before committing to backing him.

It looks like I had a pretty good picture of what was to come in his Presidency, but while I didn't expect an FDR or a JFK like some other DUers did, I've still been taken aback by the old-style moderate Republican, firmly corporatist orientation that's emerged. It's been significantly worse than his record. For instance, while voting in favor of the FISA Act amendment in 2008, Obama said he did so expecting some provisions to be corrected to improve civil rights protections later, so I expected him to go ahead w/ that as President. Instead, according a careful analysis by the EFF, he has promoted changes to the Patriot Act that make warrantless surveillance over the citizenry even easier. And so it's gone down the line on all the important issues that have been addressed so far.

Nor did I fully expect that so much whipping of progressives would be done, and none of anyone else. I thought that there'd be a little more give and take. I thought that in a desperate economy, even if he didn't appoint any progressives to advisory positions, he'd at least invite them to conferences to hear there suggestions. Frankly, I'm a little shell-shocked.
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 01:18 PM
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19. More ignorant hatred of the President.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 04:22 PM
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21. it's not hatred . . . that is such a ridiculous thing to say
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 03:20 PM
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20. K&R
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JetCityLiberal Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 04:30 PM
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22. k&r thanks debbierlus
thanks for your stellar efforts here as well.

:thumbsup:

Paul
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 04:13 PM
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24. Self-delete.
Edited on Fri Dec-25-09 04:17 PM by clear eye
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