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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 07:01 PM
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Krampus of the Year: Joe Lieberman
Tuesday, December 22, 2009
http://americanjudas.blogspot.com/2009/12/krampus-of-year-joe-lieberman.html">Krampus of the Year: Joe Lieberman



In what I hope will be an annual award, it's time to anoint the Krampus of the Year. Thanks to my co-worker Richard, I have learned quite a bit about this unique European mythical creature. Krampus basically plays bad cop to Saint Nicholas' good cop. To quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krampus">Wikipedia:

In various regions of the world – especially Austria– it is believed that Krampus accompanies St. Nicholas during the Christmas season, warning and punishing bad children, in contrast to St. Nicholas, who gives gifts to good children.

The word Krampus originates from the Old High German word for claw (Krampen). In the Alpine regions, Krampus is represented by an incubus-like creature. Traditionally, young men dress up as the Krampus in the first two weeks of December, particularly on the evening of December 5, and roam the streets frightening children and women with rusty chains and bells.<1> In some rural areas the tradition also includes birching – corporal punishment with a birch rod – by Krampus, especially of young girls. Images of Krampus usually show him with a basket on his back used to carry away bad children and dump them into the pits of Hell.


What a charmer. Who was the human equivalent this year? By a landslide, it's Holy Joe Lieberman! Probably the best illustration of why he deserves this can be found in an http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/10/somebody-buy-joe-lieberman-puppy.html">article written by Nate Silver from http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/">FiveThirtyEight:


10.27.2009
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/10/somebody-buy-joe-lieberman-puppy.html">Somebody Buy Joe Lieberman a Puppy
by Nate Silver @ 4:01 PM
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The reason http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28788.html">this is a little scary for Democrats is because the usual things that serve to motivate a Congressman don't seem to motivate Joe Lieberman.

Would voting to filibuster the Democrats' health care bill (if it contains a decent public option) endear Lieberman to his constituents? No; Connecticutians http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1296.xml?ReleaseID=1374">favor the public option 64-31.

Would it make his path to re-election easier? No, because it would virtually assure that Lieberman faces a vigorous and well-funded challenge from a credible, capital-D Democrat, and polls show him http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/10/lieberman-flirting-with-political.htmllosing such a match-up badly].

Would it buy him more power in the Senate? No, because Democrats would have every reason to strip him of his chairmanship of the Homeland Security Committee.

Is Lieberman's stance intended to placate the special interests in his state? Perhaps this is part of it -- there are a lot of insurance companies in Connecticut -- but Lieberman is generally not one of the more sold-out Senators, http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/search/label/fundraising">ranking 75th out of the 100-member chamber in the percentage of his fundraising that comes from corporate PACs.[br />
Are there any particular compromises or concessions he wants in the bill? He hasn't stipulated any, at least not publicly.

Might he have a legitimate policy objection to the public option? Certainly there are some legitimate objections -- whether or not you agree with them. But Lieberman's objections don't make any sense. He says he's worried about blunting "the economic recovery we’re in" even though the public option provisions wouldn't kick in until 2013. He says he's worried about debt-reduction when the public option would make the bill more deficit-neutral. And he http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002298/">campaigned on a public-option type alternative called "MediChoice" in 2006.

What Joe Lieberman wants, in all probability, is attention. He wants Harry Reid to have to stand up and http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/reid-lieberman-is-the-least-of-my-problems.php">say things like : "I don't have anyone that I've worked harder with, have more respect for, in the Senate than Joe Lieberman." He wants face time on Meet the Press. He wants to make liberals feel some pain -- especially those who tried to get Ned Lamont elected in his place. He wants everyone to know how maverick-y he is.

But even if Lieberman will probably cave, this creates real problems for Democrats. For one thing, Lieberman has said he won't oppose the motion to proceed with the health care bill. Instead, he'll filibuster the end result, if he doesn't like the outcome. This is actually very devious. If Harry Reid determines that he doesn't have 60 votes on the motion to proceed on a bill with a public option, then he doesn't have to bring it to the floor. Progressives will be apoplectic, Reid will lose some face, pundits will talk about Democrats having lost momentum -- but the prospects for health care reform will probably not have seriously been damaged. The opt-out will get replaced by an opt-in or maybe a trigger or co-ops or whatever and Olympia Snowe will be very happy and the debate will proceed.

But if, on the other hand, Lieberman filibusters the vote for final passage, that will have come after weeks of floor debate, amendments, and compromising on all sorts of issues. This would be a very, very serious blow to health care reform. And it makes this a much more expensive bluff to call.

The other way that this is damaging to Democrats, of course, is that it may embolden an Evan Bayh or a Blanche Lincoln or a Ben Nelson to adopt Lieberman's stance. None of these guys want to be the lone Democratic member to filibuster -- but it's much easier to defray individual responsibility on a procedural vote against your party when you have someone else joining you.

But while a Nelson or a Lincoln is liable to have a fairly rational set of concerns -- basically, they want to ensure they get re-elected -- it's tough to bargain with people like Lieberman who are a little crazy. In certain ways, he resembles nothing so much as one of those rogue, third-bit Middle Eastern dictators that he's http://www.senate.gov/Senate404.html">so often carping about, capable of creating great anxiety with relatively little expenditure of resources, and taking equal pleasure in watching his friends and enemies sweat.


Keep in mind this was written before Joementum threw a tantrum over the prospect of Medicare availability starting at age 55 as a compromise over the public option, which was a http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/12/joe-lieberman-not-the-man-he-used-to-be-on-medicare-buy-in.php">blatantly hypocritical 360 degree reversal from his stance toward Medicare in 2000, back when he was campaigning to be Vice President, back when he was a Democrat.

Happy holidays, Krampus! What will you take away from the American public next?


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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 07:07 PM
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1. This Lieberman bashing is starting to get anti-semitic
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 07:14 PM
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2. The link you provided would be. My bashing is not anti-Semitic.
Edited on Tue Dec-22-09 08:01 PM by robertpaulsen
But I don't believe mine is. It certainly had no intention by me. Check my links, I don't believe Krampus has any anti-Semitic origins.

on edit: I just double checked and I can't find any myself.
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:01 PM
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3. Well, you knew exactly which part of your post I was talking about
and it's from the Germany / Austria region of Europe, and they have had a bit of a history of demonizing Jews...
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:41 PM
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4. Yeah, because I read your link. Obviously, you didn't read any of mine.
Your insinuation is bullshit. As for your supporting evidence:

and it's from the Germany / Austria region of Europe, and they have had a bit of a history of demonizing Jews...

Yeah, I get it. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more. Well, I'll say more for the sake of clarity. It's an implication devoid of causality. Kind of reminds me of my Grandma's accusations that all of the major geopolitical problems within the last century can be attributed to left-wing extremism. When I point out that the Nazis were extreme right-wing, I get the contradiction, "Oh no, the Nazis were left-wing!" Her supporting evidence? The Nazis have the word Socialist in the translation of their name! Sorry, but a single word does not determine ideological underpinnings any more than a geographical region determines whether a demonic image is anti-Semitic or not.
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