Question about mandates.

[GreenPartyVoter]

[NYC_SKP]

1. Like auto insurance, I support mandates, but I think there MUST be a P.O...

But maybe it won't come as soon as we'd like. In the meantime there is plenty of good news and more in less than one year than over the past 200 on this matter.

Right:

I'm reading Sanders' press releases, got there from a DKos diary.

Just wondering if you've seen it and have an opinion.

Diary:

45,000,000 get single-payer care =vs.= 3,000,000 P.O. tickets ??? -- Cummon folks.

THIS IS IMPORTANT.

Ted Kennedy's existing CHC program expands along lines developed by Bernie Sanders and Ben Cardin.

The single best thing to happen for America's working poor since food stamps:

-- 14,000 nationwide Community Health Clinics

-- Expand CHC capabilities to match VHA technology

-- 45,000,000 people served

-- $$$$$ to attract 20,000 primary care physicians, nurses, etc.

-- Drugs at VHA prices

-- Dental care

-- Patient billing scaled to income

-- No profit motive. 1/5th the cost of Emergency Room treatment.

Alan Frumin, the Senate Parliamentarian, showed last April that non-budgetary insurance sections would not qualify for reconciliation. Filibusters would doom any Senate P.O.

Care is separated completely from any billing.

Harry Reid concealed Sanders-Cardin till the last hour, then popped it into the Senate HCR Bill.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/12/22/818060/-This-HCR-Bill:-45,000,000-Get-Single-Payer-Vermont-Health-Care

Sanders: http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=2F6CC5A1-C9D2-46CA-902E-E3D0EFD94232
and
http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=30b2a415-4ade-4367-af7d-4c3306e31b58

:patriot:

[GreenPartyVoter]

2. I wasn't kidding about being tired. I can't even read it let alone comprehend it right now. LOL

I will get back to it when I can. (Great excuse to avoid holiday company house cleaning tomorrow. :P)

[NYC_SKP]

3. Well that should be fun! =:^)

I tend to BE company, not HAVE company. :P

[GreenPartyVoter]

4. It's so much easier your way *whine whine* I _hate_ cleaning. Even just the average everyday kind.

[GreenPartyVoter]

11. The cleaning is not going at all well. The kids are just screwing around and giving me a headache.

x(

[juno jones]

7. Hopefully they open up equal treatment to the poor as well.

I go to a community clinic. they tell you right up front that there are certain medicines and treatments they don't cover.


Pain management's a biggie. Mostly because all us poor people are junkies just waiting to happen, dontcha know? Also suspect are muscle relaxers and anti-spasmodics. And the well-off wonder why us po'folk drink beer and smoke pot. We don't have medicine to treat our injuries because we aren't trustworthy enough humans on account of our income to be given what upper-class people get for their pain (and canadians buy OTC).

There several other things, mostly medical tests that you have to referred out to a private office for, and many of those tests aren't covered by the clinic's sliding-scale discount. For example,I can irradiate myself on the cheap with a mammogram, but would have to pay full boat elsewhere for a better, cleaner diagnostic with less chance of false postive.

If they can allieviate the two-tiered approach, good for them, but I ain't holding my breath.


I will add: They've been decent about answering my questions, and they have helped me diagnose two minor problems which have been ignored for years by other docs. I am grateful, but I want full care without discrimination. To be treated as a person, not an income bracket.

[GreenPartyVoter]

8. Yes, the treatment quality based on income bracket thing is just lousy.

[FLAprogressive]

5. Option #2

[Greyhound]

6. Health care cannot tolerate profit as it's primary motivation.

As long as we leave the leeches attached, we will never get well.
:kick: & R

[GreenPartyVoter]

9. Agreed

[GreenPartyVoter]

10. kick

[Odin2005]

12. I voted for number 2.

[GreenPartyVoter]

13. It seems like the vast majority of responders feel similarly. :^)

[GreenPartyVoter]

14. kick

[GreenPartyVoter]

15. kick

[invictus]

16. #2