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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 09:40 AM
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Republicans: Al Franken Is Too Serious
http://www.mydd.com/story/2009/12/23/72053/289

Republicans: Al Franken Is Too Serious

by Josh Orton, Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 07:20:53 AM EST


Yeah, that's their new line. He's intense! About issues!

On a meeting with Senator Corker and his staff, who oppose Franken's anti-rape amendment:

The meeting quickly deteriorated when Franken began berating one of Corker's aides, according to GOP aides familiar with the incident. Franken's sally was so harsh that Corker told Franken to lay off his aide and direct the comments at him instead.


Nothing says "uncivil" like a passionate argument in favor of the rights of rape victims.

On Iraq and obstruction:

Another GOP staffer, an aide to a Senate Republican leader, found herself at the sharp end of Franken's wit at a recent reception in the Senate's Mansfield Room. The tongue-lashing took place at an event to celebrate the swearing-in of GOP Sen. George LeMieux (Fla.).

After the conversation began ordinarily, Franken started to grill the aide about what he sees as the failings of the GOP. Franken demanded to know why it had become the "Party of No" and had exaggerated facts in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, according to another GOP leadership aide.


The horror, those poor Senate aides.

First they called him a clown. Then they smear him as too passionate. Look, they probably just believed their own prejudices, and now they can't handle the reality that Al's actually brilliant and dedicated.

Go Al.

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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 09:43 AM
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1. You bet your ass he's serious
And he's going to be a Senator for a long, long time. So get used to it, 'pubbies.

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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 09:45 AM
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2. Al's serious about telling the truth
and the truth to a conservative is sunshine to a Vampire.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 09:45 AM
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3. Translation: The Repukes want Franken to be their trained monkey
Someone who will sing, dance, and tell jokes on command. I seem to remember Jon Stewart brought down Crossfire on CNN when Tucker Carlson tried the same thing on that program.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 09:46 AM
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4. When he was running for Senate, they made him
out to be a "comedian" and a clown. They left out that he is a Harvard graduate.
Also, he scored 800 on the math section of his SAT. They're the clowns.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 09:48 AM
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6. 800 on the math SAT?
Day-um. I knew he was smart but that's ludicrously smart. Yep, he's good enough, he's smart enough, and doggone it, people like him.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 09:47 AM
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5. The aides/staffers are young republicans who have
grouwn up in Conservatie/Right Wing Households who went to shcools like Oral Roberts University. They have never been confronted with their brainwashed beliefs before.
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:47 AM
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28. Exactly.
My daughter-in-law was raised by rightwing X-tians who placed her in crazy Bible-thumping schools her whole life. After college she went from a job at the Family Research Council into a job for a lunatic rightwing senator who shall remain nameless. She is so brainwashed and her education was so limited that she didn't know who JFK was and never heard of Bobby Kennedy. Can you imagine such a thing? When she asked me about JFK and didn't know he was assassinated I about fell over. When I brought up Bobby Kennedy she said, "Who?"
Now, she's a sweet girl but watching SNL with her is an exercise in frustration because cultural references go completely over her head and I spend most of the time explaining what the jokes mean instead of watching what's going on - it drives me nuts. Her parents think they raised a fine, upstanding Christian but what they did was raise an ignorant child who happens to be 31 years old.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 09:50 AM
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7. Franken introduced Barrasso as Guest Chaplain for U.S. Senate the other day
Barrasso mentioned it on Tweety the other night. He didn't seem amused.

:rofl:

Sen. Barrasso as Guest Chaplain for U.S. Senate Dec 18, 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3P3DBMwfkc&feature=youtube_gdata:rofl:
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Frosty1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 09:57 AM
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12. I really don't understand this
They have banned prayer in schools but they can pray in the senate? What happened to separation of church and state?
It's only for some?
Why do we have to listen to their crap?
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:08 AM
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17. For what it's worth, Congress has had a chaplain
from the beginning. Therefore it's hard to criticize Congress having a chaplain as a violation of the separation of church and state when the founders instituted a chaplain.

Therefore the argument actually goes the other way, and it is necessary to defend other holdings of violations of the establishment clause in spite of the fact that Congress has always had a chaplain.

I remember hearing the late Justice Goldberg justify the distinction between Congress and public schools on the basis of children having impressionable minds whereas congress critters clearly don't. I does make sense, it's just a bit awkward.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:48 AM
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35. They haven't banned prayers in schools
They only banned forcing students to pray. They are perfectly free to pray on their own there.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:20 PM
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43. Can't spell Barasso, without ASS n/t
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 07:56 AM
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49. That was funny.
Barrasso was placed in a position where he had to behave as a Christian after a whole lot of ugliness. Kinda hard to reconcile the two, particularly in a head with only one hamster wheel.

That was brilliant.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 09:51 AM
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8. When Franken was a working comedian he was serious. Why do they expect a change?
Republicans are genetically predisposed to douchenozzlitude and assholery.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:23 AM
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22. Most Comedians do take their work seriously
And laughter is the best medicine for the world.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 09:52 AM
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9. He's not there to join the Boys' Club
he's made that clear

:thumbsup:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 09:54 AM
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10. Don't ever back down Al
Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 09:54 AM by HughMoran
Franken is a good Senator - others could learn a thing or two from him.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 09:56 AM
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11. "Franken demanded"
I wonder how a third party observer might characterize the exchange? One person's "demand" might be another person's polite inquiry or casual observation. But being called to account for their political thuggery is always an uncomfortable experience for the GOP.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 09:58 AM
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13. Yeah Al Franken took the rape of women too seriously in their view
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 09:59 AM
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14. You mean being a United States Senator is serious?
Who would a thunk it?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:04 AM
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15. They accused Franken of being a clown. They used images of
Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 10:05 AM by MineralMan
him in the Stuart Smalley character in the campaign. Franken has always been a serious man. He is a satirist, not a yuck-yuck comedian. They misunderstood him, and underestimated him. If he sticks to the job, he promises to be a very influential Senator. I think he'll do just that.
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:11 AM
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19. Franken for President 2012.
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change_notfinetuning Donating Member (750 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:17 AM
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34. I'd certainly have more hope if Franken were president now. n/t
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 12:12 PM
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38. He's more important in the Senate. It's more Senators
like him that we need. I doubt that he'd even consider running for President.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:04 AM
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16. go al...these pricks only have name calling to turn to
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:09 AM
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18. Not like the birthers, the Death Panels, Death Tax, praying tor Democrats to die,
praying for Obama to die, and Sarah Palin as VP material.....He's very serious compared to their capers and pranks.

I love how they get so offended when someone points what criminals and perverted pinheaded thugs they really are.

Oh, excuse me - I didn't mean to be serious.....

mark

rec.
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:12 AM
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20. Comedians Feel
Comedians Feel emotions stronger than most... thats why they are Comedians... Making jokes to lighten the burden of pain and helplessness.

Thus it goes the other way. seriousness is also a result of strong emotion.

Franken especially knows were that line is. He knows he is not in a position of helplessness. he is in a position of leadership and action.

so his seriousness about the role of Senator is stronger than possibly the rest of the senate body.

typical republican cares less about others plight or especially Feeling. so they are taken aback by someone who has a stronger sense of urgency than they do.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:13 AM
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21. He's serious about beating them to pieces with the facts.
That's for sure.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:24 AM
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23. Go Al
Rec
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:30 AM
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24. Yeah...I can't think of a funnier topic than rape!
:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

ASSCLOWNS.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:32 AM
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25. Seriously kicking some GOP ass
:applause:

RL
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:34 AM
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26. good he should be serious and not frivolous like the stupid repigs.
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Tanuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:38 AM
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27. It the sounds as if spin machine is trying to make him out to be a bully,
picking on un-named aides and junior staffers. I would anticipate that this is going to be the theme of a well-orchestrated smear campaign to neutralize him. They will try to use his fearlessness and sharp wit against him.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:48 AM
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29. wtf.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 10:53 AM
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30. "according to GOP aides" "according to another GOP leadership aide"
Just a couple of neutral observers.

:sarcasm:

Fucking whiny-ass Repuke cry-babies, who've never had the truth thrown in their faces before.
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:05 AM
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31. he's not the "conciliatory" dem of the past decade that the repugs are used to bullying around
and I love it!

we need more Frankens!
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:09 AM
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32. If the repukes think Franken is too serious about issues
think if Sen. Franken uses his comedic genius to mock and mimic them on the Senate floor. I can just picture Franken mimicking the likes of McConnell, Sessions, etc., making fun of their extremist views for C-SPAN viewers to see. Then he'll really piss them off! :evilgrin:

:think:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:09 AM
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33. Thank god at least someone in the senate is.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:52 AM
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36. lol.... more Orwellian Statements from the uncreative minds
there reverse logic is getting old, boring, sophmoric and too predictable.

"While I say goodbye, you say hello..."
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WeCanWorkItOut Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:52 AM
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37. He supports some good causes. But I suspect it's because
he knows what some idealists respond to.

I expect that there are political consultants
out there who advise our representatives to cultivate
a "patch" of idealism. So the reps become
the Advocate of this or that Great Cause, and
many naive idealists see this and their suspicions melt away.

So they don't notice what else the rep is up to,
to help their friends and relatives, social class,
local developers and other special interests.

I don't want to hurt the any feelings.
But please, idealists, be cautious. They're on to you.
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 01:16 PM
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39. Have you read any of his books?
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 02:32 PM
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40. What an odd response...
...to a post talking about how the right is trying to portray Al Franken as too serious, or too bullying.

Instead, you say he is simply using a pet issue to cover up his real motives which are as venal as the next guy's. Oh, yeah, and you get in a jab at the "idealists" (== progressives) on the board.

Way to support one of our progressive Democratic Senators! Well done! :sarcasm:
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Mr. Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 09:55 PM
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41. Go Al! it is great to see he has hit the ground running. n/t
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:18 PM
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42. k&r for Al Franken. n/t

Kill the bill.


Forcing people to buy insurance is no more the answer to a failed health care system than forcing people to buy houses is the solution to homelessness.

:dem:

-Laelth
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:23 PM
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44. I guess they think rape and war is something to take lightly and joke about.
:eyes:
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the blues Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:25 PM
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45. They fear his intelligence and dedication.
Go Al! :headbang:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 11:27 PM
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46. A friend told me that a common Rovian tactic is "attack their strength".
Looks like what's happening here.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 12:38 AM
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47. Oh man, just a few months ago the Republicanites were complaining in the
Minneapolis Star-Tribune that they were ashamed to have a comedian in the Senate.

Now he's "too serious."

It just goes to show you. Trying to please the Republicans is a lost cause. Don't even try.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 07:52 AM
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48. Shocking. How "uncollegial"
Good for him!
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