Have you ever lied to your child to get them to stop throwing a tantrum?

[LoZoccolo]

[EFerrari]

1. No, because it doesn't work. n/t

[hedgehog]

2. Never had to - the one kid who would throw tantrums would end

up with a migraine! She learned very quickly not to throw a tantrum!

[Greyhound]

3. He's not our daddy and we're not children.

You OTOH, are a perpetual ass.

[tridim]

4. You think the OP is talking about you?

:rofl:

You're so vain...

[Greyhound]

12. Still waiting for your cogent reply to the other three threads.

Something more substantial than "I believe", please.

[tridim]

15. I'm speaking from a position of understanding what is actually in the bill.

It has nothing to do with faith.

It's not my problem that you haven't read it yet.

[Greyhound]

25. Yes, you keep saying that but you have yet to provide any argument

that supports your assertion.

I've got to go do some stuff now, so you have a few hours to come up with a real position.

Please point out where the provisions that lock benefits to the CPI or similar measure of ever-increasing costs are located. Where is the section that dictates the criteria that the beneficiaries of this largess must comply with in deciding to approve or deny treatment? How about the handy-dandy "experimental treatment" method of denying care? How about that ban on robbing Social Security and/or Medicare to "pay" for this program? Or maybe you can find the provision that requires these parasites to reduce overhead costs until they match the government's?

These are a good start and should be quite simple to find in the thousand-plus pages of needless complexity, complexity that is always used to camouflage the graft.

[tridim]

30. The bill is my argument. READ IT.

[Greyhound]

32. Ah, so you have nothing.

As expected.

Hope your holidays are happy.
:hi:

[Ignis]

24. Given the poster's history, yes.

Nothing is posted that is not in some way a disparagement of the Left via an argument that boils down to "we're the adults in the room, we'll tell you how to be good Democrats."

We're just lucky he didn't throw in Nader reference for a two-fer.

[EFerrari]

5. There are a lot of posts to DU that attempt to infantilize posters

and that speaks to a real authoritarian streak in segments of this community.

[Greyhound]

14. I find it is becoming more and more prevalent as their fantasy dissolves. n/t

[Hell Hath No Fury]

6. Well said.

He has always put the "Loco" in LoZoccolo.

[FormerDittoHead]

10. Thank you. I got the "you're children having a tantrum" subtext as well.

...and the answer is NO, I don't flat out LIE to my kids because I don't think they're FUCKING IDIOTS, have MEMORIES and I RESPECT them.

edit 1: double negative.

edit 2 PS: my kids are 5 years old, and the above applies - they're not stupid.

I will, however, reserve Santa Claus for now...

[BurtWorm]

7. You're accusing Obama of lying!?

:o

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

20. Sounds like it me!

:rofl:

[Iggo]

8. Nope. I told 'em the truth. That's scarier. (n/t)

[Diane R]

9. ***

[T Wolf]

11. Other - our PERFECT children NEVER had tantrums. But really, we found the best course

of action was to ignore it (if possible).

One time, our daughter threw herself on the floor at a mall, screaming for something (maybe ice cream - it's hard to understand those high-decibel shrieks). We simply walked away and left her there (staying close enough to watch). A couple of older ladies stopped and bent down to "comfort" her. She saw them and immediately got up and ran over to us.

Tantrum-interruptus. And she never again acted out in public.

[silverweb]

13. No. I did shock her into silence once, though.

I guess she was about 5 or 6, maybe even a little older.

There was something she really, really wanted and I'd been saying "no, not now" for some time. When she screamed, "But I'll die if I can't have it!" I calmly said, "Well, I guess you'll just have to die, then," and went on with whatever it was I was doing at the time.

There was stunned, shocked silence for a moment and then she disappeared into her room, where it remained quiet. Her big brother started laughing and said, "Mom, that was really cold." Actually, it was as much hyperbole as her hysteria and she knew it. And the tantrum stopped.

Her tantrums had always been rare, but they stopped completely after this episode. I eventually did get her what she wanted -- much, much later, when it was more appropriate and she had given up badgering me. :D

[SoCalDem]

16. Tantrum "cures"

#1
at home:
Kneel down, gently pick them up..say not a word..and put them on their bed..close the door, & walk out...rinse & repeat as many times as necessary.

#1
at a store:

kneel down to eye level, and whisper to them..tell them you're sorry they're so upset..take them by the hand or pick them up and GO HOME..then see #1 above:)

#3
at a restaurant:

if you are with a spouse or another adult, remove the child from the restaurant, have the other adult ask for to-go containers, and to pay.. then you go home and "see #1"..if you are alone with the child or the child and other kids, ..everyone leaves the dining room while you ask the waiter/waitress to make it to-go..you pay as quickly as possible and then you go

#4
at a theatre or any public event:

see #3 & #1

Children throw tantrums because they are tired, frustrated, ill, or they want your undivided attention...but they need to learn that screaming & hollering is NOT the way to GET that attention. Screaming at them or getting angry with them only means that you are now sharing their tantrum..not ending it:)

[slackmaster]

17. Yes, we told my stepson that salmon was "pink King mackerel" to get him to eat it once

He claimed that the only kind of fish he liked was King mackerel, so we lied about the salmon, and he ate it.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

18. Yes, I once told my daughter I had never campaigned on the public option

[Edweird]

19. They catch on faster than you think. You lose their respect. They may even grow to hate you.

And rightfully so.

[gratuitous]

21. At the tantrum-throwing stage, I have found . . .

Most kids that age can't take a real punch, so a straight right (they almost never have their guard up) and they drop like a sack of potatoes.

Wait . . . are we talking about something else?

[Electric Monk]

22. Eh fights Republicans and doesn't afraid of anything!

Something like that?

No.

[Bluebear]

33. lololololol

[CTyankee]

23. No. Only to my husband.

nt

[valerief]

26. What rhymes with WHOOSH? nt

[BoneDaddy]

27. Yeah like Santa is going to bring them coal

it works.

[Tailormyst]

28. I am not a child and he is not my father.

You really are tiresome.

[Echo In Light]

29. Not that I'm saintly or anything remotely close...but no, never have

[peace frog]

31. No, but I told a little white lie

to get my son to eat a casserole I cooked for dinner. He was fond of green bell pepper (but not onion) so I told him the onion in the casserole was white bell pepper - exactly the same as green bell pepper except it was white. Yes, he bought it and ate his dinner.

The boy went through a phase (ages 4 - 8) during which he steadfastly refused to eat all but a small number of food items. It was frustrating as hell, trying to prepare meals around his finicky palate. A few small fibs here and there saved a lot of confrontation at mealtime.

[donheld]

34. What's your point?