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kayla9170 Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:05 PM
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Looks Like Someone Only "Kind of" Supported Obama from the Outset....
Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 07:32 PM by kayla9170
I wondered if I could find information from the Hamster blog to prove that she and her crew barely supported the election of President Obama. Well, in this case, I did not have to look long and far. Sometimes, words speak louder than the initial actions (even though the actions are clear for some to see now). So I will post some parts of the article/blog that supports my point of view and link the entire article....to be fair-From November, 22. 2008.

1. Did the Hamster ever support the Obama Administration, way back in November 2008? Here is the quote from the article:

...."His (Obama) isn’t the administration I’d pick, but the proof will be in what he actually does. If for instance he sets up a panel to take on torture, opens up intelligence files and lets the public know how this horrible, malignant policy came to pass, it will go a long way towards assuring people that a choice like Brennan for CIA chief isn’t just "business as usual."

Does not sound like it. "His isn't the administration I'd pick". Who's administration would she pick? Remember, Obama at this point, was the President-Elect, not the President yet. This is less than three weeks after the election. If I remember correctly, the Obama Team was in Transition mode. Regardless, she did not agree with and/or pick his administration, this quickly? More from the article.....

2. Did Jane believe that Obama was Liberal and/or Progressive after the election?

"....Look, for people who convinced themselves that Obama was the second coming of Saul Alinsky — wake up. He never was. He may, however, be the most progressive person we could have possibly hoped to elect as President of the United States."

Ok, so it sounds like here, the Hamster is stating that Obama is not Liberal enough for her but he is as Progressive as "we" could get? If I did not know better, that sounds like...settling to me. With Hillary out of the race, the only possible Progressive left was Obama. So, she settled. Let's go on....

3. What did the Hamster want Obama to do after being elected? What was her call to arms for her crew?

........."Your job, should you choose to accept it, is to help keep the obstructionists off his back and push him to fulfill his campaign promises to end the war, pass health care legislation and the Employee Free Choice Act, clean up the environment, reduce our dependence on foreign oil, repair our infrastructure, create good jobs and restore the middle class."

Ok, let's talk facts here. Obama is in the process of ending the war in Iraq. She never stated Afghanistan in her statement, so I will assume here she is speaking of the Iraq War. I think Obama has done that, right?

........"Pass health care legislation". OK, Obama is in the process of doing this too. Now, looking at the Hamster statement above, I do not see her now CALL TO ARMS for Universal Health Care or Single Payer Health Care....it's states, real clearly "Pass Health Care Legislation". President Obama has kept his pledge here (the bill in currently about to pass in the Senate and go back to the House to combine both versions of the bill) but, what about the Hamster and crew? Let's look at the next statement....

"Your job, should you choose to accept it, is to help keep the obstructionist off his back....".

KILL THE BILL call of the Teabaggers are Obstructionists, Fox News have been Obstructionists all along, the GOP House and Senate have been Obstructionists, some members of the Democratic Party (Nelson, Lieberman, Landeu....just to name a few) have been Obstructionists and Groups that have held Vile Signs and slogans against President Obama have been Obstructionists. Instead of the Hamster keeping these groups off of President Obama back, she and crew members have decided to join in with most of these folks...exception, the Democratic Senators noted above. So, is the Hamster now a Obstructionist herself? Remember, she only asked for HEALTH CARE LEGISLATION, not single payer or universal health care. Now, since she have flip-flopped her position and turned on President Obama.....what would you call her? You decide.......

..."clean up the environment,reduce our dependence on foreign oil". President Obama has worked to clean up our environment and reduce our dependence on foreign oil, so far. He has enacted a Green Jobs program in his first year in office and plans to ask Congress to bring Climate Change Bill up for debate, in 2010. In fact, here is a link....http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/energy-and-environment. There is alot President Obama has done his first year. More than what Bush done in 8 years in office. I am impressed but it appears, the Hamster is not.

..."repair our infrastructure". Well, here are some more links for this point:

From Logistics Management-http://www.logisticsmgmt.com/article/439156-Transportation_infrastructure_Obama_calls_for_increased_infrastructure_efforts_to_create_jobs_boost_economy.php

From the Washington Post-http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/12/obama-vs-obama-on-infrastructu.html

From USA Today-http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/politics/2008/12/09/to-jolt-economy-obama-and-congress-eye-billions-in-infrastructure-spending.html

The Project Itself-Source Wikipedia-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Recovery_and_Reinvestment_Act_of_2009

What more does the Hamster want here? Confused........... Onward....

....."create good jobs and restore the middle class". Now I will admit, this one is a Work in Progress for President Obama. He did obtain this government in the worst recession since 1929. It will take time for this goal of the Hamster and Crew to happen. Plus, he has been working on Health Care Legislation all year. Still some small steps are taking place...

From Politico- http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/30925.html

From the Washington Post-http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/08/AR2009120802016.html

CBS News-http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/23/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6015313.shtml

Plus even though Unemployment Extensions do not create jobs per se, they do keep people from falling into complete economic despair. President Obama has signed two Unemployment Extensions....with a third one to come, shortly on December 24th, since he has been in office.

The point is, from the Hamster OWN words on her demands, President Obama either has worked on or is currently working on ALL OF THEM. Her demands changed on health care and now she is throwing the POTUS under the bus. I believe this is suit her agenda...since as she stated, "His isn't the administration I'd pick".

There is a difference between disagreeing with the Presidents' policies and stirring up all out war in the Democratic Party. It is like certain individuals WISH to hand over the keys to the bus to the Teabaggers and GOP in 2010, to run President Obama over with the bus. This is not right and frankly, in smells to high heaven.

As promised, here is the entire article/posting link-http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2008/11/22/obama-and-a-paucity-of-progressives/

Thanks for reading my post.

P.S.- With all the tense waters that have been on this site lately I wanted write this article fair assessment article. To anyone that was upset with my previous posting, I apologize for the tone. Writings like I have above, with actual links, is the way I usually provide information and will do so for the immediate future....to the works of President Obama and his administration, so far.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:08 PM
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1. I don't care if she was a strong supporter of Obama or not...
but I do care that she is being hilarious right now.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:10 PM
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3. The Hamsherites will now destroy you
Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 07:11 PM by WeDidIt
I saw one already predicted your tombstoning.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:12 PM
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4. Wow, what damning quotes!
Or not.

I guess you had to have been a squealing, gawking fanboy posting pix of Bo to qualify as a 'supporter' to you.

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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:17 PM
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5. I thought she was a well-resepected liberal...
Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 07:23 PM by liberalmuse
but then I started reading her stuff and more and more it was sounding a bit 'off'. I've been wondering WTF for some time now regarding her screeds, and that's exactly what they are. Of course that doesn't stop others of her ilk from posting her articles (the same ones) over and over and over again here on DU as if they were the gospel truth. THINK, people. It's easy to get swept up in this anti-Obama shit/hysteria, and it's gotten utterly ridiculous. Jesus. I'm convinced these same people would gave thrown JFK under the bus, because it actually takes a couple of years for a President's agenda to start producing results. It will be a cold day in hell before I join the teabaggers in their nasty, RACIST protests against our President. It will be an even colder day in hell when I respect anyone who aligns themselves with Faux News. I don't fucking think so.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 08:30 PM
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9. I think the Senate bill is pretty awful
but a lot has to do with the fact that Reid has allowed himself to be blackmailed. A Party without discipline will not be elected. It lacked discipline from day one as evidenced by how much was given away in the Recovery Act. That is not the fault of the President. It is the fault of a weak Senate Leader who allows blue dogs to threaten him.

I will say again, to borrow a phrase from a failed smiley man, Reid is a politician in office, but not in power. He needs to buck his ideas up and get his Senators in line or we lose everything. The problem is that the loss will be presented as a kick back against "socialized medicine" and not a kick back against poor leadership.

Killing the bill is not the solution as that way lies loss for all.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 08:32 PM
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10. It's hard to see her as anything but an entertainer and propagandist.
I just don't get it.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 07:40 PM
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6. You mean like Obama only kind of rejected mandates as the answer to HCR
Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 08:00 PM by chill_wind
and at one point supported a public option, sort of....

Look, this is no defense of Hamsher, whom I'm quickly losing interest in, but you are seriously. seriously deluded if you think any 2010 losses will be the blame of any Jane Hamshers and not the decisions being made up to that point that are going to have political price tags among voters- supporters, "sort of" supporters, and not supporters- overall. Mandates without a public option *insurance giveaways* are going to piss off a large chunk of voters across the spectrum. The GOP WILL SEE that point gets made without any help from Jane.. Get a grip. SERIOUSLY, get a grip!
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 08:19 PM
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7. Couldn't read past point 1., clearly you don't know who Brennan is
or you don't care. Do a little more homework.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 08:21 PM
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8. IBTL
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 08:44 PM
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11. What on earth is all this gibberish
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 08:46 PM
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12. AVOWED RACIST JANE HAMPSHIRE wanted him to pass EFCA?!!one!11one! THE HOROR
Sounds like Jane saw through his ruse a lot earlier than some of us did. Good on her.
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