ddeclue
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Wed Dec-23-09 09:21 PM
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Boycott the DSCC, DCCC and DNC and let them know that you will be giving directly to PROGRESSIVE |
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Boycott the DSCC, DCCC and DNC and let them know that you will be giving directly to PROGRESSIVE Democrats that you choose to support and that you will be doing it directly so that these electeds will actually know your name and give a damn about what you think from now on.
This fake healthcare "reform" bill is just a giant gift to the insurance companies and a giant burden on working Americans who will be forced to buy junk insurance policies from these same people who have been ripping them off for decades. It does NOTHING to strip away insurance companies antitrust protections and it does NOTHING to force competition against a REAL government run health system. The best solution is obviously English (or Veterans Administration) style National Health - the second best is government run single payer - we are getting NEITHER and the weasels in the senate: Joe Lieberman, Ben Nelson, et. al. are laughing at us while they screw us!
When the DSCC and DCCC call you and tell you that someone has agreed to "match" your donation what they really mean is that some corporate donor is going to get the credit with the politicians who benefit of not only their donation but YOURS also.
The best thing you can do is cut out these middlemen who in effect make you ANONYMOUS to the politicians and allows them to disregard what you want them to do.
Tell the DSCC and DCCC and DNC to go to hell and find a progressive Dem to back directly with your own money and time and make sure they know that if they don't do what you want them to do, that their successor will be.
Tell them you will never give to them again until they actively work to remove these corporocrat weasels like Nelson and Lieberman, etc. from power and actively work to elect New Deal Democrats that FDR would have liked to replace them.
If your Congressman or Senator is NOT progressive, then find someone to run against them as a Democrat in their primary and run the weasels out of power.
If they threaten to switch parties, then FINE, I'd rather have our enemies exposed as what they are REPUBLICANS instead of hiding out and pretending to be Democrats all the while just being traitors to our party ideals.
It just sickens me how many cowards, liars and bought and paid for lackies there are in Congress and we need to clean house on our side and get rid of the Liebermans, Lincolns, Nelsons, et. al. that are screwing us over and setting us up to fall in 2010 and 2012 and beyond after we've worked so hard to undo the Reagan "Revolution".
Time to clean house. Time to boycott the DCCC and DSCC. Time to take back our party and stand up for Democratic principles!
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Cassandra
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Wed Dec-23-09 09:22 PM
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1. I can simply tell them... |
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that now that my health insurance premium will be taking 1/3 of my income, there's nothing left for them.
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Wed Dec-23-09 09:23 PM
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2. I got a call from the DSCC the other day and I told them to take me off their list |
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Wed Dec-23-09 09:32 PM
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3. We cannot allow the fracture of the party |
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Hold your nose if you do not fully agree with your Democratic representation. The Republicans are falling apart and our party is still strong. If we allow splinter groups to form and dissension to foment anger we will never succeed in all those policies we need to see through.
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Wed Dec-23-09 09:34 PM
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4. WE can not afford to hold together and be lead / Force Marched to the right any longer |
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Wed Dec-23-09 09:36 PM
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5. While I agree the Democratic Leadership is veering Right |
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in order to steer and straighten the ship we must go along with them. We will eventually have loud enough voices for them to hear us and comply with our demands for change. Until that happens Democrats must have majorities for us to have any chance.
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Wed Dec-23-09 09:41 PM
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6. They are marching toward FASCISM they can go without me. We must NOT go along with them. |
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Democrats have HAD majorities for a year. Do you see us changing anything but speed?
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Wed Dec-23-09 09:43 PM
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8. They have to deal with the Right Wing Reactionaries |
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We cannot place blame on the Democratic Leadership. It is clear that they and their families are being threatened by the Republicans behind the scenes.
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Wed Dec-23-09 09:46 PM
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10. I can and do blame the Republicans in the Democratic LEadership A.K.A. DLC |
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Wed Dec-23-09 09:45 PM
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Wed Dec-23-09 09:46 PM
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12. We must go along with them? |
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:wtf:
How do you propose that we are going to eventually get a loud enough voice to change the direction of the part if all we have done is go along with everything the party does. After you spend enough time sucking up and caving in, nobody listens to you any more. You no longer have any moral authority to demand any change.
The people who spend so much time giving in to get along also get used to it and end up protecting the status quo. That isn't the path to change. It's the path to more of the same.
You are just finding convoluted ways of telling people to shut up now so that maybe they can say something later. But shutting up now means they usually can't say anything later. You are giving very poor and useless advice.
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Wed Dec-23-09 09:42 PM
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7. We can't afford to give our approval to politicians who keep |
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dragging us to the right, and using our party to give away our nations treasury to corporations.
We can't afford to give our approval to politicians who are going to betray our rights and lie to us about it.
We can't afford to give our approval to politicians who are going to attack the left as if WE are the enemy, while at the same time demanding that we vote for them and keep contributing to them because we are their captive base. They can't have it both ways.
They have to give back to us! They have to start representing us, or they can't expect us to sit here passively and not do whatever we can to argue, fight back, and raise hell about their corruption.
They are the ones fracturing the party when they betray the base. They are the ones fracturing the party when they move to the right. They are the ones fracturing the party when they become corrupt and start serving corporate special interests instead of the people of America.
Hold THEM responsible for the state of the party, and hold THEM responsible for holding the party together. Hold THEM responsible for doing the right thing, and then come back here and talk to us about what you think we should be doing. If you aren't concerned about the real source of the problems then this is all a waste of our time.
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ddeclue
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Wed Dec-23-09 09:46 PM
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11. Screw that - run the weasels out. THEY are destroying the party not us. |
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Wed Dec-23-09 09:47 PM
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13. I started doing that in 2006 |
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Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 09:50 PM by Blue_In_AK
when progressive candidate for House from Alaska, Diane Benson, got no support from the national party because they thought Don Young was "unbeatable." Spending 1/8 the amount of money he did, she got 40% of the votes. Who knows how well she might have done if she had been financed.
I contribute to candidates now, not the party.
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