When a final bill is presented to the house and senate, do they still need 60% to pass it?

[Kablooie]

Is filibuster still an option in the Senate and the house in the final vote?

[cali]

1. The House doesn't have filibuster. Yes, the dems will need 60 votes to reconcile.

[Kablooie]

2. Whew. That's going to be hard since several senators are such hard nosed blockheads.

[cali]

3. no, the hard part is pretty much over

the leadership is not going to let this fail at the 11th hour.

[mmonk]

4. I'm looking more toward what I think will be an attempt to change it

through the reconciliation process and a straight majority vote. I think like minded Democrats will attempt this.

[old mark]

5. I recently heard that the FINAL votes will be simple majority, 51 votes in the Senate.

I think someone on CNN just said thatwhen they just covered the passage of the Senate bill.

mark

[Kablooie]

6. If that's true, then a truly reconciled bill becomes relatively easy.

[mmonk]

9. Yes, and quick.

This is where progressives like Sanders will play an important part of changing the bill for the better.

[Kablooie]

10. And they can get rid of those special benefits for Nebraska option.

[WeDidIt]

7. The House cannot and has never been able to filibuster any bill

There is a single up or down vote in the House.

There is a vote on cloture in the Senate and if cloture is invoked, an up or down vote.

Where the fuck were you when they covered this in your civics class?

[Kablooie]

8. Oh heck. When I was in civics class I was just a kid and what do kids know?

[louis c]

11. House No, Senate Yes

unless the Senate moves to put it into the budget in what is known as "reconciliation", which is not to be confused with the house and senate conference committee reconciliation of the bill. They are two totally different things. I know, because it confused me, also.

The Republicans got the Bush tax cuts for the rich through the Senate with 55 votes using this "reconciliation" method. I guess they're just smarter than we are (sarcasm intended).