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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:49 PM
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CSPAN Call: I'm so mad about health bill passing, I took my Xmas tree down!
On the day before Christmas, one C-SPAN viewer took their unhappiness with the Senate's newly passed health care legislation to a new, personal, level: taking down her Christmas tree.

Bunny from Kansas called in to C-SPAN to express her disappointment. "I'm so disappointed," she said. "I have taken my Christmas tree down, I've taken my Christmas wreath
off my house, I've taken all the lights down. This is supposed to be a nation under God, and it isn't."

Bunny then took it one step further by wishing that "every light in the nation go out, especially in the White House." Her reasons for such extreme measures were vague but included "genocide on the seniors."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/24/cspan-caller-im-so-mad-ab_n_403353.html

Just when you think the freeptards can't get anymore stoopider....:dunce:
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:52 PM
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1. Health care systems can be modified over time
They did that with the UK socialized care system.

Why can't they modify this one? Are we more rigid than stone?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 12:05 AM
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3. Yes They Can. For Better, Or For Worse.
Edited on Fri Dec-25-09 12:05 AM by MannyGoldstein
Which is this? With health insurer stocks at an all-time high, I have a guess at which.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 06:30 AM
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16. Stocks not close to all time high. Not even week high. Far lower than
they were faring in December of 2007.
They are all up from a year ago but have not nearly recovered worth from 2 years ago (even my little retirement shares have recovered 83% of 12/2007 worth.)
They all dropped slightly after passage of bill
Some examples (from Google Finance)

Wellpoint WLP
this weekend 59.28
Monday 12/21 at 60.55
Wednesday 12/23 at 60.66
12/2007 at 89+

Aetna AET
this weekend 33.73
Monday 12/21 at 34.45
Wednesday 12/23 at 34.29
12/2007 at 57+

Humana HUM
this weekend 45.44
Monday 12/21 at 45.12
Wednesday 12/23 at 46.02
12/2007 at 79+


Not good to believe rumors instead of fact checking no matter who we hear them from.
Even worse to spread rumors before checking them.

Of course they would be up somewhat, there had been such uncertainty and we all know it could and should have been worse for them.
Single payer, they'd have plunged.
Public option as weak as we had made it might or might not have changed this pattern. If you recall CBO expected po rates to be slightly higher than private plans.
I still wish we had it because they might have slowed growth rate and already being established would be easier to change.

They didn't mean higher than current rates, the exchange will have lower rates than now available for individuals and small business. Those predicted rates are what weak po would not have beaten.

I am sure they like having so many more clients while they do not like the new demands and regulations. Imagine how much more it costs to actually accept, cover and keep sick people.

We have to keep working because we know the lobbyists will.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 03:58 PM
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21. You are right. I am wrong.
I read it, but should have checked it.

Thanks.
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 12:10 AM
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6. The people, no. Corporations, yes. nt
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 12:13 AM
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7. Corporations can be modified? I'm all confused. nt
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 01:08 AM
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12. By whom.
They buy politicians, laws and policy. They now have endless gobs of taxpayer wealth to play with, who is going to modify them.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-24-09 11:58 PM
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2. LOL
C-SPAN is great. You can laugh your butt off most mornings on Washington Journal.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 12:06 AM
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4. They pray to Jesus for things to go their way.
At least makes sense to blame him when it doesn't.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 12:07 AM
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5. That poor deluded womancfrom Kansas...
Now we know what's wrong with Kansas...
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 12:17 AM
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8. "This is supposed to be a nation under God . . ."
Where do these folks get their ideas? And what does it mean? That God isn't big enough? Or the nation is so wayward, that God has forsaken it? Or . . . well, just what exactly? And so she's taking down her tree, her wreath and all her lights. Well, that'll show somebody, I'm sure. Do the people who take the calls ever engage the caller, or do they just let them gas on?
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 12:37 AM
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9. Someone should have told her they were pagan symbols.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 12:38 AM
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10. How sad is that.
Oh, my.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 12:39 AM
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11. Oh - My - God. I never thought it would come to THIS! Taking down an Xmas tree!?
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 01:14 AM
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13. There were some real fruit loops calling in to that show.
They are all members of the "I've got mine and the rest can just eat shit and die" club. My youngest sister is just like them. She is livid that poor people will get insurance and might raise her premiums. She plans to go to church Christmas morning and pray that all the Democrats, uninsured, and poor people disappear, My older repuke sister is even beginning to think she is insane.
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xfundy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 01:23 AM
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15. "all the Democrats, uninsured, and poor people disappear"
Yeah, then she'll try to hold us down or hitch a ride when we get raptured.
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tmyers09 Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 01:21 AM
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14. No comments about her name?
Seriously. BUNNY? An actual rabbit probably has a bigger brain than this woman.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 06:33 AM
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17. What does health insurance have to do with God?
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 09:04 AM
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18. Of course I didn't read the whole Bible but darn it --
I wish someone would tell me where God is against Health Care. And tells us to take down our Christmas Trees and not to celebrate Christmas to protest.

How stupid are the people who now populate the republican party. We know republican members of congress are on the bottom rung, but gee all over America they must be nuts.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 09:10 AM
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19. OMG. That Black Muslim from Kenya, when he's not palling around with terrorists
he's destroying America. Did I tell you he's a BLACK MAN?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 09:11 AM
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20. We grow them crazy here
What can I say?

:rofl:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 03:59 PM
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22. Uh oh.Now the Baby Jesus won't slide down the chimney & hide the eggs
:rofl:
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 04:15 PM
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23. Her disappointment made her throw God under the bus
along with her wreath and Christmas tree which have nothing to do with Jesus or God. Damn! She's even throwing all the Pagan stuff under the bus too.
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