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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 01:02 AM
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Arne offers money to push districts to turn failing schools into charters, or have private managers.
I can not tell if this 3.5 billion to close failing schools and turn them into something else is part of the 4.3 billion Arne Duncan offered earlier. I think they might be separate. The 4.3 billion was for districts that allowed more charter schools to come into the state, for more testing of students tied to merit pay for teachers. So I am not sure.

This is in effect giving incentives to public school districts to NOT fix problem schools but instead to simply fail them. Look at the options. Two are actually privatization, and the others could lead to more compliance to do so.

From the Education Week blog this month.

Obama and Duncan launch NCLB 2.0

The U.S. Department of Education announced its plan to spend at least $3.5 billion to push local officials around the country to close failing schools and reopen them with new teachers and principals. At this time of fiscal crisis and budget cuts, districts are desperate for federal dollars. To qualify for these dollars, districts must do one of four things: 1) fire the principal and at least half the staff and reopen the school with new staff; 2) turn the school over to a charter operator or other private managers; 3) close the school and send the students to higher-achieving schools in the district; or 4) replace only the principal and take other steps to change the school.

Sounds just like the sanctions in NCLB. The Obama-Duncan plan might as well be called "NCLB 2.0."


Closing public schools to get the money at a time when the economy is in crisis, schools and families are under stress.

Arne Duncan is certainly familiar with school turnarounds. He closed down a number of schools in Chicago. Studies done by Chicago think tanks have shown that most of the brand-new, turned-around schools enrolled few of the students who previously attended "failing" schools. The Consortium on Chicago School Research produced a report revealing what happened to students when their "failing" school was closed: 80 percent of the students enrolled in low-performing schools transferred to other low-performing schools. There is no evidence that the turnaround strategy in Chicago has produced positive results. Catalyst, the first-rate independent group that covers education issues in Chicago, reported in September that high school test scores in Chicago were stagnant, even in the highly-touted transformation schools.

Charter school organizers and management companies must be licking their chops, waiting to scoop up the new federal dollars and new opportunities for market expansion. The charter movement began as an effort to strengthen public education, but it has turned into a movement to get rid of public sector unions and to turn public schools into private schools funded by public dollars.


Here's a really painful part for those of us who teachers when public education was treated with respect.

I wonder about the students in the 5,000 schools that Obama and Duncan want to close. Will they be shuffled off to other low-performing schools, as they have been in both Chicago and New York City? I wonder, too, about who will work in the 5,000 brand-new schools? Are there 5,000 super principals waiting in the wings to lead them? Where will they find the tens of thousands of "great" teachers who will staff them? Or will they play musical chairs with the principals and teachers from the schools that were closed?


The author says that what we are "witnessing now is the culmination of the plans of the education entrepreneurs who are driving national education policy at the highest levels. They are not educators.....I think that is called creative destruction."

Yes, it is destruction of public education, and it is being done creatively. So that would be correct.

This is already happening in Florida and other states. I heard that this year 18 Florida schools would likely be closed in this fashion.

California is offering up to 250 of its schools to "outside bidders."

The corporate charter school movement is getting ready to rear it's ugliest face as LAUSD prepares to action off 250 schools (with part of this process headed by former Broad Resident Parker Hudnut). Media outlets in LA have frozen out the voice of teachers, painted union members as totally crazy, and refused to take any kind of critical look at this rapid expansion of charter schools despite a growing body of evidence that should give us reason to pause.



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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 01:47 AM
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1. This is all making me ill -
Sad thing is, most people will not realize what is happening until it is complete and their kids are going to school that has a big fat corporate logo in front.

K&R and Merry Christmas to you madfloridian, I appreciate what you have done in making this information available.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 01:50 AM
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2. I seriously wish you could get the media to use your information or at least hire you to report
these outrages going on ...I wish the word would and could get way beyond du...something needs to be done and quickly before it is too late...
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 02:26 AM
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3. Why did they move to other failing schools?
That makes no sense to me. Was that forced upon them?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 02:38 AM
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4. For years problem schools have been neglected....
the purpose is to in this order (in FL) fire the principal and staff, next shut it down. Then reopen in the form of a charter school, usually with private management.

Charter schools get huge money from Gate, Broad, Walmart.

It is just a giveaway to corporations.

Fixing the school is out of the question, it would defeat the purpose of privatization.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 02:54 AM
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5. Why don't these kids go to the charter school?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 03:18 AM
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6. That is the purpose.
The charter schools have huge funds from corporations to advertise and organize parents to get their kids to leave public schools. The money goes with the kid from public to charter to enrich the coffers of the private CMOs.

Our tax dollars are even bailing out religious schools, like Catholic schools, which are in financial straits and decide to become charters to get public tax money.

They want to shut down public education. They are succeeding in the guise of what is not real.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 03:25 AM
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7. But the kids who left the failing school didn't go to the charter school,
they went to other public failing schools right? In reading your post I assumed this was a bad thing.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 12:00 PM
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23. Yes, because it perpetuates the lie.
The lie that becoming a charter somehow "turns around" a failing school. If the school had kept all the same kids and the charter came in and improved performance - then yeah, they'd have something to crow about. But that is SO not what happens. They just get rid of all the underperforming kids through various time-tested processes (applications, volunteer requirements, getting rid of transportation or food service, etc.) Suddenly you have a whole school full of kids whose parents support them enough to drive them to school every day. It's a totally different population of kids in a school with the same name. Presto! The school "turns around".

It's all bull hockey - to quote a phrase.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 02:37 PM
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28. I really don't think I understand your question.
They are dismantling public education in the guise of charters which will benefit private management companies.

They are offering money to states and districts who are willing to help them do this.

NY's Paterson is battling teachers' unions right now to get Arne's money.

BTW all public schools are not failing. Few are. The propaganda is powerful.
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bonnieS Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:44 AM
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10. thank you
for your continuing focus on this disgrace.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 10:20 AM
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18. charter schools take only the best..or as in chicago
..fake test scores,insider placements,or good old arm twisting.

the closing of one public high school in chicago and turning it into a "military academy" led to violence and the death of a student.

arne "lost" over 2 million in computer equipment while running the chicago school system. seems he did`t bother to make sure his underlings tagged the eqipment.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 11:57 AM
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22. Charters often have application processes.
They SAY they take "anyone", but in reality, you have to apply in January, the kid has to write an entrance essay (in English), the parents have to sign a commitment form that they'll donate X hours per semester in volunteer time, etc. etc. Kids that don't have supportive parents just don't get this done, and don't get in. Pretty simple technique for getting rid of all the kids you don't want while still claiming "anyone" can get in.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 07:45 AM
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8. Obama is backing Charter schools . . .!!! More corporate/fascism . . .
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 07:59 AM
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9. Now that we've finished up with corporately controlled health care "reform" the Obama administration
Can now concentrate on dismantling our public education system. More "change" we can believe in :eyes:

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you Madfloridian, and thank you for all the good work you do on this issue.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 08:48 AM
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11. The Kabucki Theater continues
Because people are still viewing the world in terms of a Football game.
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 09:15 AM
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12. how soon will the corporations bring back Child Labor, with Child Wages
instead of minumin pay? "Working builds character".......the majority are not going to be able to pay for education in these charter schools, unless it's free like public ed. It's all part of the plan to return America to the law of the jungle & we are well on our way there.
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 09:21 AM
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13. This lets me believe that the Medicare Commission is designed to phase out public Medicare.
A WH who could set up a system to privatize public schools is one which would also want to move to a totally privatized Medicare. I think we were outmaneuvered on the Medicare Commission. It started w/ the WH pushing IMAC (independent Medicare "advisory" committee), which was blocked in a House committe by Rep. Rangel. It's an idea that would normally be hotly opposed by progressives who naturally want control over Medicare to stay under the protection of the elected Congress given their history of knowing better than to end the wildly popular public portion. Wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that Emmanuel, w/ his friendly relations w/ the Republicans, devised a way to plant the talking point about first the IMAC, then the current Medicare Commission in the Senate bill, being "death panels". The goal would be that the wingnuts going on those crazy "death panel" rants would derail appropriate progressive criticism. We'd be so busy defending the President from wild wingnut accusations, that we wouldn't be able to define important legitimate criticism of this executive branch takeover, including the question of what the next neocon President will do w/ the power. Since members of the private insurance industry and Big Pharma are to be appointed to the Commission, despite their obvious conflict of interest, what should we expect from it? What makes me think this, is that it makes no sense for the corporatist rw to be against the new panel, unless it's a chess move.

BTW, I mourn the death of public education w/ all my heart.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 09:43 AM
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14. "Private"? "Charter"? "New teachers and principals"? Based on Bush's NCLB? Why am I a Democrat?
Edited on Fri Dec-25-09 10:00 AM by WinkyDink
Try to get textbooks that reflect REALITY in privatized schools.
They'll all be Reagan's Shining City on a Hill propaganda. Motto: "NO INDEPENDENT THINKING ALLOWED."

These avaricious men---who seem to need more "escorts", more drugs, more homes and yachts (let's not be naive; Tiger's tale has ripped the veneer off the sleazy world of the mega-rich)---seek to make "education" (they are not even remotely interested in education) into a profit machine:

Students will have to BUY TEXTBOOKS; PAY to PLAY sports (already in some districts); PAY for their TRANSPORTATION; BUY UNIFORMS; PAY for TRANSCRIPTS to be sent to colleges/employers; ETC.

Teachers WILL be FIRED based on those execrable "Standardized Tests"---no doubt bought from some member of the Bush family.

IOW: These men have taken note of the Big Bucks involved on the University level, and want to make all prior levels, K-12, their fiefdoms.

Onama can say what he chooses; he has remarkably little credibility with the public any more.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 09:49 AM
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15. I think they are doing this in my district, Mad
Your OP helped me connect the dots.

The district needs to close 20 - 30 schools this year due to a huge drop in enrollment (charters) and the resulting loss of revenue. I went to a public forum a couple weeks ago where the public was supposedly asked for feedback to determine criteria for closing buildings. I was stunned when the agenda became obvious. The people attending the forum were led to agree that school performance should be the main criteria for closing schools. Not the condition of the facility or the demographics of the community, but performance. The reason this is so odd is about a third of the buildings are 15 - 20 years old and most of the others are over 75 years old. It seems logical that the older buildings would be closed while the newer ones remain open.

But if performance is the criteria for closing buildings, then many of the newer buildings which rarely or never make AYP will be closed and turned into prime real estate for groups wanting to open more charters.

I think I am going to be ill.

I do thank you though for helping me connect the dots.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 12:04 PM
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24. We're being forced to do it here.
The state has told us that THEY will close two of our schools if we don't. So, to pre-empt that, and to make up for the 6.12% cut in funding from this year to next, we have to close at least two schools. We picked the same schools they picked, because we don't have any other option.

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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 09:53 AM
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16. Is Obama a DINO?
Sure looking that way.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 10:01 AM
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17. Duck Walking.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 11:31 AM
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21. His education policies are horrifically bad
Far worse than Bush.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 11:03 AM
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19. The shock doctrine "worked" in New Orleans. No reason it can't work everywhere else. Gobama!
nt
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 11:03 AM
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20. Economic "stimulus" = coersion to enact change we don't want. nt
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 12:15 PM
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25. As a public school teacher, I am completely opposed to NCLB and
NCLB II, as it is being described.

We are turning children into robots. There is no incentive to teach children how to actually THINK for themselves.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 12:56 PM
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26. if anyone thinks this is a good idea
please look at the mess that we have with for-profit health care. we need some common sense reforms in public education, but privatization will only increase the current problems and inequities.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-25-09 01:01 PM
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27. On the days when my better angels are in charge
I think that Obama is a really nice man who I am glad beat mccain. I believe that he wanted to do good things. But like most men, he doesn't know everything so he went and got himself some advisers. The problem is that one of the things he doesn't know is how to get good advisers. He is terrible at it as evidenced by his choices to help with education, the economy, the war, and managing legislation. Then he trusts them - completely. It begins to feel that, despite his public persona, he has serious issues with self-doubt and feelings of inadequacies. Big show on the stage, but not feeling up to questioning his advisers whom he feels are smarter than he.

That is on my better days.

On days when the lesser angels rule, our president, whom I worked hard to get in office, is a more than a disappointment. On those days - and every time I get more news like the OP - I think he is a typical politician. On the worst days, events seem to paint him as a stealth candidate for the evil empire. Corporatists and neocons could hardly ask for more than they are getting.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 03:29 PM
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29. I'm sure glad I graduated from high school before this BS took place
I went to California public schools and experienced the effects of being underfunded. Now that I'm seeing the Obama administration is acting as Chimpy's marionettes, it makes me glad that I got to leave high school this year before the new boss decided to be same as the old boss. Luckily, we didn't get fooled again. Obama & Company seem to be throwing around words like "performance", "merit", and "change" to exploit the gullible. Now that I've read about the issue a lot here, I can see through their lies.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 04:38 PM
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30. Connection to Health Insurance?
I found myself wondering whether one of the reasons the Senate agreed on a Health Insurance bill that lacks any public option was primarily to create a legal precedent that State compulsion can be used to directly benefit private entities. If individual citizens must pay for private health insurance, or be fined, in similar fashion is there a day in the future when individual parents must also pay (what are now charter that become) for-profit schools to educate their children?
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