Faryn Balyncd
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Fri Dec-25-09 01:35 PM
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Is is worse when Republicans pass bad bills, or when Democrats pass bad bills? |
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Edited on Fri Dec-25-09 01:50 PM by Faryn Balyncd
Seems to me it's a mixed bag.
When Bush/Cheney were power, much of the evil that was done (much of which was not impeded by the niceties of law) seem a much greater immediate threat. But there was hope at the end of the tunnel, provided by an articulate opposition.
Bad bills passed by Democrats, however, are a horse of a different color: While the immediate threat seems perhaps less pernicious, the fact that the side of reform has been co-opted by dark forces, that the voting public has no clear option for democratic reform, and that the old Bush/Cheney allies will be the political beneficiaries of this squandered opportunity - - - - all these seem to provide significant danger.
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The Velveteen Ocelot
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Fri Dec-25-09 01:38 PM
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1. A bad bill is a bad bill. |
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Fri Dec-25-09 01:43 PM
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what party writes and/or passes it is irrelevant.
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Fri Dec-25-09 01:38 PM
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2. What Bad Democratic bill passed? |
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and what is bad about it? And is there any good in it?
Or is "bad" the new description of a bill one hasn't actually read, and the description is based on what other people who also haven't read the bill have said?
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Fri Dec-25-09 01:44 PM
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4. The unPATRIOTic Act was passed under a Dem majority |
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so you can start right there.
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Fri Dec-25-09 01:49 PM
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6. Sounds like you answered your own question then........ |
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what was the vote count result on that one....and who wrote it?
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Fri Dec-25-09 01:48 PM
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5. I wish I had listened to Don. |
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A friend of mine, named Don, once told me the difference between the Democrats and the Republicans is:
When a Republican is going to screw you, they dress it up and swear up and down they are not going to screw you.
When a Democrat is going to screw you, they pretty much let you know they are getting ready to screw you.
I'm beginning to understand that philosophy now, except I think the roles seem to be reversing.
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Fri Dec-25-09 02:02 PM
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8. If I'm going to get screwed |
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it's nice to a least get a look at the guy and maybe a kiss first.
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Fri Dec-25-09 01:57 PM
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7. worse if the party betrays their principles to pass the bad bill |
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We expect Repubs to want to pass bills that are bad for the people but good for the wealthy because that is a principle of the party. If Dems pass the same bills it's worse because not only are they bad bills it betrays the principles of the Dem party.
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Fri Dec-25-09 06:21 PM
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Kill the bill. Forcing people to buy insurance is no more the answer to a failed health care system than forcing people to buy houses is the solution to homelessness.
:dem:
-Laelth
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Fri Dec-25-09 02:12 PM
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9. When republicans pass bad bills poor and middle class people suffer |
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When Democrats pass bad bills, everybody suffers, but the wealthy suffer relatively more.
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Fri Dec-25-09 02:21 PM
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10. Written with a sneaky reference to the HCR bill |
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Fri Dec-25-09 02:28 PM
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11. If the bill results in some folks getting some way past due medical attention |
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and saving a few lives it is not a "bad bill". This bill is far from what progressives wanted but to paraphrase what Bernie Sanders has said "it is an important first step".
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Fri Dec-25-09 06:28 PM
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13. Usually bad bills are bipartisan ones -- i.e. NAFTA, Patriot Act, FISA, etc. |
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