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Locut0s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 12:02 AM
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Any intelligent person can tell you that spending a lot of money on airport security is bullshit.
Edited on Sat Dec-26-09 12:46 AM by Locut0s
OK let me clarify this statement. There were a lot of crazy lax standards before 9/11 like leaving the cockpit door unlocked and more. However after 9/11 they poured billions of dollars into airport security to basically make people feel safer without actually thinking of the logistics of the issue. This was basically money spent to make people feel better about themselves and did little to improve security. Once the obvious security holes had been plugged, things like self check in, locked cockpit doors, etc etc... it then became a desperate search for anything they could do too assuage peoples fears. Instead people need to come to the realization that WE ARE LIVING IN A WORLD WHERE BAD THINGS HAPPEN. There is no way to stop a determined murderer who has no fear of death from committing an act of terrorism. You should obviously plug the big security holes but beyond that you are only creating MORE fear not less. Taking away your nail clippers and preventing people from carrying toothpicks only sows the seeds of more fear NOT less. My uncle today came up with a perfect example, he said that if he were the terrorist why not hide the explosives inside the body of a child? Once you understand the lengths to which terrorists are willing to go to you quickly realize the best defence is to just life your life as you would anyway. Let's spend the money to tackle the problem at its source, poverty and religious extremism. Spending the money at this end is just plugging the cracked dam with our fingers and pretending we are safe.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 12:07 AM
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1. They still don't seal off the front of the plane.
They just lock the door and unlock it when a pilot needs to pee so that he can get to the bathroom.

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Locut0s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 12:11 AM
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2. Well that's a design issue with the plane itselt...
Short of installing a separate bathroom for the cockpit there is little they could do about that. But I remember when you could just walk up and enter the cockpit yourself most of the time. They allowed kids with their parents in tow to see the cockpit all the time.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 12:16 AM
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4. They should have separate bathrooms for the pilots. NT
NT
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:55 AM
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10. Exactly if someone timed it right...
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 12:14 AM
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3. You are absolutely correct.
I am proud to K&R

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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 12:17 AM
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5. does anyone in their right mind actually think ?
if there was another attack they would use the same methode? That is if there is any truth to the 9/11 as we know it.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 12:17 AM
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6. Well that's a nice politically correct analysis
:eyes:
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 12:24 AM
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7. I guarantee the $ spent on airport security is a fraction of what we'd need
to spend to eradicate "poverty and religious extremism." We're spending money on things over which we can at least have some measure of control...

Good luck with tackling global poverty and religious extremism.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:59 AM
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13. Exactly
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 12:41 AM
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8. And the TSA can be a nightmare. I have tales but I'll leave it at that. nt
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 12:43 AM
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9. You can either try to prevent them from killing us, or from wanting to kill us
The second is much easier, except for foresight - that's the hard part.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 05:59 AM
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18. quit the shit that makes them hate us
none of which is for the benefit of us or them but only for the big moneyed interest.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 06:11 AM
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20. +1
:hi:
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galileoreloaded Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:58 AM
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11. Shannon's Law.......n/t
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:58 AM
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12. There are still places that are extremely lax with their security...
I was shocked by the airport in Athens, Greece for example.

Obviously, it seems like Nigeria might also be a candidate.
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Locut0s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 03:28 AM
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14. Airport security is the least of Africa's problems! nt
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 03:53 AM
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15. Seems as if it is Amsterdam's problem... I am a little shocked by that as
I would not put Amsterdam at the bottom, or top of the security list. I would put Schipol somewhere in the middle.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 05:24 AM
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16. easy way to shut down all air transport
Simply have a few nutjobs detonate bombs at the security check in line. Kills hundreds, shuts down airports. Those lines aren't making us safer, they're just big targets.
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Locut0s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 08:52 PM
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21. Exactly what I meant it doesn't take much "thinking outside the box" to...
come up with this kind of thing. The very idea that one can protect the populous against acts of terrorism is rather flaky.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 05:44 AM
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17. airport security is a make work project for the otherwise unemployable
Nothing more, nothing less.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 06:10 AM
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19. You think the establishment don't know this
but imagine if your cronies manufacture all that screening stuff and you have the power to force governments all over the world to install it at their airports...then just watch as the money keeps rolling in.

It's all a racket.
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