We're in the process of swallowing it. We don't have a choice. Sorry to be so blunt. nt

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[dkf]

1. You can swallow if you want.

I'm protesting myself.

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2. Good for you but what will it really change? What will it accomplish?

[Frances]

3. It will accomplish the same thing that the defeat

of the Clinton's health care bill accomplished.

It will weaken Obama and the Democrats. And that will empower Bachman and Palin and the teabaggers.

[ixion]

4. Their own corruption is what makes them weak

not protesting their corrupt actions.

[dkf]

6. The interest in passing a crappy bill to get a legislative victory is so wrong i

Can't express my contempt strongly enough. If your side ever convinces me this bill is perfectly morally fine i will buy health insurance stocks in all good conscience and laugh all the way to the bank.

[dkf]

5. Nothing I do accomplishes anything.

As a collective body they are all bought and paid for. But I can tell them how disgusting I find them so maybe they can get a conscience and some guts someday.

[Frances]

8. You sound just like the people who voted for

Nader instead of Gore.

You would rather have a George W Bush and Karl Rove and Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman and O'Reilly and Limbaugh and Beck running things than a Dem who is doing the best he can with what he has to work with.

To me, you sound like a person who is feeling miserable and wants everyone else to be as miserable as he is.

[WeDidIt]

10. You're protesting yourself?

:rofl:

[Ozymanithrax]

7. The whole "Swallowing" thing is an anti-gay attack. It is the same with "bend us over the table"

We can be unhappy with something without resulting to biased, ugly, anti-gay language.

Try, they are leaving us "squealin' with the feelin'" or "oinkin' with the boinkin'" so we can keep it as either sex using abusive power to force us into something.

[Tansy_Gold]

9. You think "swallowing" is limited to gays?

:rofl:

[Ozymanithrax]

11. I know where the language came from...

[Warren Stupidity]

12. Is it really anti-gay?

How are "squealin' with the feelin'" or "oinkin' with the boinkin'" better? They just seem more vague and less specific to me. Certainly 'boinkin' has a a boinker and boinkee and the 'oinkin' part evokes the graphic homosexual anal rape scene from deliverance.

The metaphors of forced sexual domination need not be homosexual. Men can and do force women to bend over or swallow it with far more frequency than they do other men. The metaphors equate assertive and insertive male sexual domination with other non sexual processes and frequently seem to be highly accurate as a way of describing various social relations in a patriarchy.

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16. Who was talking about sex or sexual inuendo or sexual orientation? I guess

now when one uses the word "swallow" or "swallowing" the automatic inference is that the substance being swallowed is ejaculate?

[BeFree]

13. You will vote for the democrat...

...and you will like it.

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14. Yes.

[BeFree]

15. What other choice is there?

We coulda had Gore as president.

But the bitchin' gave us bushco for 8 gawd damned years.

Is ok to want better, but there comes a point where you realize you support and vote for the democratic party candidate or you suffer the consequences.

Right now, today, the only choice we have is to support the democrats even if it hurts because otherwise we eat republican shit. I'm sick of that republican shit sandwich that was served up for 8 years because we didn't support Al Gore.

[mmonk]

17. I will not swallow anything until I can no longer fight for something better.

There is still time for final changes.