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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:19 PM
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Jane Hamsher's pal: "Today, Grover Norquist and I are calling for an investigation into Rahm..."

It's not even an error, a mistake, or that someone forced this freak to put this in her blog:

http://firedoglake.com/2009/12/23/jane-hamsher-grover-norquist-call-for-rahm-emmanuel%E2%80%99s-resignation/


She did it willingly, aligned herself with Grover Norquist.

How on EARTH are the handful of anti-Obama Hamsherites going to deny she did it willingly?

I'm waiting to hear more about how she made a mistake. Exactly what kind of mistake was that? Drug-induced?


:nopity:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:20 PM
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1. I predict that next she asks
"where's the birth certificate?"
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:22 PM
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2. EXACTLY! The firedoglake Hamsherites are card-carrying GOPers
It's just that it hadn't come out before.

It's like what happened with NADER. Eventually someone discovered he'd been supported by the Repugnicans, and he had to admit it.

All these assholes are aligned with the Repugnicans in one way or another.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:24 PM
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6. Are you crazy? Gopers?
Do you really believe that or are you making stuff up?
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:26 PM
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9. NO? OH! I was confused. I thought Norquist was the designer of the Nazi-GOP ideology
Silly me! I had no idea Norquist was a bleeding heart liberal.

:crazy:
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:44 PM
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29. took your lessons from the Rovians well, I see
people who disagree with you are the *gasp* enemy.

Embarrassing watching this shrill patrol. If you live in Salem Mass during the witch trials you'd be offering to bring wood for the fires, even before the trials.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:51 PM
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39. We aren't the chumps getting tricked into supporting a bogus witch hunt
and I'm being generous to DU'ers and figuring that they aren't purposely engaging in sowing dissent over bogus crap.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:22 PM
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3. It's a free country.
Let her do what she wants. All the left groups are falling in line like lemmings anyway. At least she has guts.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:23 PM
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4. No doubt she's doing what she wants. Like Nader, she's supported by the GOP nt
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:25 PM
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8. Gore was different
But apparently Nader would have been correct if he had thrown out those accusations against Obama and the rest of the "centrists"
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:27 PM
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10. Nader: Found accepting GOP money. Hamsher: Admitted to have joined forces with fascist GOPer
Let's see... is there much more I need to know?
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:36 PM
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21. That is like equating all who object to the senate bill as being gopers
But maybe you do that too.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:39 PM
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24. No, actually, that's like quoting Hamsher's own words as supporting a Nazi-GOPer.
That's what it is.

You can continue to try to fool us if you'd like tho. I think bullshitters are often fun clowns and keep us laughing.
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suzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:01 PM
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43. +1
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:24 PM
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5. Hate makes people do stupid things
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:25 PM
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7. It sure does, doesn't it? I'm just glad her true GOP-loving nature came out

She'd sell her mother to Hitler if she could.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:28 PM
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11. that just earned an unrec
it's one thing to strongly disagree, but that's beyond the pale.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:29 PM
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12. Oh goody! A Hamsherite is upset! Put your GOP-card back in your pocket or you might
lose it!
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:31 PM
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15. fuck you nt
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:32 PM
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16. awww - I think you need to tell that to your GOP-card carrying leaders, Nader and Hamsher nt
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:39 PM
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23. That was a rather hateful response
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:42 PM
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27. really? I think it was entirely appropriate.
there was no reason to assert I am Republican,
It's also against the rules
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:29 PM
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13. A mistake? I don't think so.
Ed Kelly , the inspector general was conducting an investigation into fannie and freddie and their part of the housing mess, which of course leads directly to Rahm's time on the board in 2000 and 2001, when Obama up and fired Kelly as IG, demoting him to an auditor. Obama also denied a freedom of information request by the chicago tribune to take a look at the minutes of the freddie board when Rahm was on it. He claimed it was commercial info even though it was federal government entity when rahm was on the board.
Rahm "can't remember" what happened when he was on the board.

Obama was able to demote Kelly because of a loophole in a law written and co-sponsored by none other than Rahm, the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008.
Obama never replaced the fired inspector general, 16 months and counting and lo and behold on christmas eve gave fannie and freddie a blank check for bailouts through 2012. Fannie and freddie are responsible for 6 trillion in loans.

No oversight, no accountability, no congress, no FOIA.



A bit of background about Rahm's time spent on the freddie board-

Rahm Emanuel's profitable stint at mortgage giant

The board met no more than six times a year. Unlike most fellow directors, Emanuel was not assigned to any of the board's working committees, according to company proxy statements. Immediately upon joining the board, Emanuel and other new directors qualified for $380,000 in stock and options plus a $20,000 annual fee, records indicate.

On Emanuel's watch, the board was told by executives of a plan to use accounting tricks to mislead shareholders about outsize profits the government-chartered firm was then reaping from risky investments. The goal was to push earnings onto the books in future years, ensuring that Freddie Mac would appear profitable on paper for years to come and helping maximize annual bonuses for company brass.

The accounting scandal wasn't the only one that brewed during Emanuel's tenure.

During his brief time on the board, the company hatched a plan to enhance its political muscle. That scheme, also reviewed by the board, led to a record $3.8 million fine from the Federal Election Commission for illegally using corporate resources to host fundraisers for politicians. Emanuel was the beneficiary of one of those parties after he left the board and ran in 2002 for a seat in Congress from the North Side of Chicago.

The board was throttled for its acquiescence to the accounting manipulation in a 2003 report by Armando Falcon Jr., head of a federal oversight agency for Freddie Mac. The scandal forced Freddie Mac to restate $5 billion in earnings and pay $585 million in fines and legal settlements. It also foreshadowed even harder times at the firm.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-rahm-emanuel-profit-26-mar26,0,5682373.story


As Cenk said-

That’s Politics 101.

Now I wouldn’t be in favor of it if they didn’t make legitimate points. But they do make legitimate points. And those are good questions. Rahm has to answer them. But on a political level, this is the kind of thing you’ve gotta do to say “you know what, you can’t only appease the right wing. I have to make sure that I appease the right wing and the left wing.” Especially because the left wing elected you, they’re the ones who gave you the votes.

So if it wiped the smug smile off of Rahm Emanuel’s face, and his dismissive attitude about all the people who voted for Barack Obama, well then it’s a great step in the right direction.

And don’t think it doesn’t have consequences — Jane Hamsher is catching massive heat from the left for doing this. How dare you join up with a right winger, how dare you damage Democrats politically.

Listen. If you don’t have the stones to go after the Democrats, they’re never going to listen to you. They don’t listen to reason, they listen to power. So Jane’s approach is definitely the right approach. As long as she’s got her ducks in order, and she’s not going with nonsense, she’s going with real concerns, that’s definitely the way to go.

Okay, that’s hard ball. And if you’re not willing to play it, you’re going to lose on every policy issue and on every political issue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et-hdHe7kew&feature=player_embedded

You see a mistake?
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:31 PM
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14. Hamsher is too busy administering a blowjob to Norquist, the father of the current nazi GOP
If she were not, she'd probably have removed the admittance that she joined forces with him.

After all, she closed all comments, such was the response she received to her holding hands with Norquist.
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:34 PM
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18. Oh I see.
witch hunts and the picture of Hamsher blowing Norquist are more fun and sickly self righteous.

carry on and by all means don't pay attention to any facts. Someone needs to fill the void left by the out of power bushbots.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:35 PM
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20. I hope she's got good suctioning abilities - he's full of nazi GOP scum
And she's an admitted admirer.

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suzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:01 PM
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44. +50
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:34 PM
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17. I never had a good feeling about Rahm until Norquist called for investigating him.
Now I think Rahm's an upstanding guy. :thumbsup:

(I mean, what was I thinkin'.)

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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:38 PM
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22. You're not going to believe this... ME TOO lol
I had my doubts about Rahm because the man is a bulldog. He gets things done by threats, etc. The only thing that made him somewhat okay in my book is that the Repukes were afraid of him. The fact that Norquist father-of-the-nazi-GOP-party shithead is asking to remove him, makes him the bes possible man for the job in my eyes.

As far as Hamsher, it's not the first time a "pretend lib" comes out as a Repuke. Remember Nader and hnow it was discovered he'd been accepting funds from the GOP. Same shit with Hamsher except she outed herself.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:41 PM
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26. You didn't take a logic course in school. Did you? n/t
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:44 PM
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28. Ummm.... are you trying to say that if I take a logic course, Hamsher's own words
admitting she's supporting the nazi father of the current GOP, was a lie? Or maybe some hacker put that in there and it's all a lie?

Where is that nice logic course, and do they include 3-D glasses? LOL!

Man, the amt of bullshit Hamshit fans put out would run a large city's power plant for years.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:45 PM
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32. Spin all you want.
You'll get dizzy after a while.

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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:47 PM
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35. I have spun nothing. I like
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:48 PM
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36. It's about Emanuel.
Tool.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:52 PM
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40. It's about who you blow, and we know whom Hamshit is blowing
She's a piece of shit.

Gosh, I hope that makes it clear how I feel about her.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 04:02 PM
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56. No. It's about Emanuel.
Deal with it.

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suzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:03 PM
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45. Next thing you know, there'll be 12 threads saying someone hacked into
Hamsher's account.

Conspiracies always seem to appeal to the Hamsherites.
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:44 PM
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30. Congrats.
Mc·Car·thy·ism
n.
1. The practice of publicizing accusations of political disloyalty or subversion with insufficient regard to evidence.
2. The use of unfair investigatory or accusatory methods in order to suppress opposition.


You'd make him proud.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:46 PM
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33. Exactly! I'm glad you realize the McCarthyist Norquist is your leader Hamshit's best friend
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:45 PM
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54. I never had a good feeling about Rahm or Norquist
And I still don't feel good about either of them, but I'm amused by Rahm's troubles.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:35 PM
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19. That sentiment has received 68 recs right here on DU!!!!!
Edited on Sat Dec-26-09 01:35 PM by HughMoran
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:41 PM
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Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:50 PM
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37. I made this picture


I post 30-40 posts a day - surprised you don't know where I stand on this or any issue. I'm not hard to find.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:53 PM
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41. LOL!!! It'd be better with a certain part of Norquist's anatomy in her mouth nt
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:01 PM
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42. I got a post deleted just for using the wrong adjective in describing that picture
I simply stated that she was "sucking" the tea from the bag and the post was deleted!! Whaaaa???
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:30 PM
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49. You're kidding me! Why would they delete that? That's crazy. nt
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:45 PM
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31. here's a bit of background on Rahm:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7206505


people are concerned about the destruction of industrial, manufacturing companies in the US

well----Rahm is from a Wall Street firm that specialized in taking them over, raiding them, saddling them with huge debt which drains their pension funds, etc.....then the companies go bankrupt and fold, workers lose jobs, etc.............
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:46 PM
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34. That's GOP propaganda and you are a troll for even THINKING such thoughts.
:sarcasm:

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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:04 PM
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46. +100
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:51 PM
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38. Here's a bit I know about Norquist (tho there's much more):
From wiki and SOURCEWATCH

Norquist has been noted for his widely quoted quip: <b>"I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub."<25> </b>

He is one of the "Gang of Five" in Nina Easton's 2000 book by that name, giving the history of leaders of the modern conservative movement. He has been described as "a thumb-in-the-eye radical rightist" (The Nation), and "Tom Paine crossed with Lee Atwater plus just a soupcon of Madame Defarge" (P.J. O'Rourke)

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Grover_Norquist

And here's Hamshit's admission that she's practically providing Norquist with a bj (nobody made her say that):

http://firedoglake.com/2009/12/23/jane-hamsher-grover-norquist-call-for-rahm-emmanuel%E2%80%99s-resignation/
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:05 PM
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47. BUT--- Rahm holds a top position in our gov't! big difference
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:31 PM
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50. And he's fine with me. The ones that aren't fine, are the GOP card-carrying Hamsherites and the
Naderites. They are part of the GOP. Unacceptable shitheads is what they are.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:33 PM
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52. Fine with you? Wow!
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 07:35 PM
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58. Wow, you must agree with the GOP. Are you one of the resident GOPers in here? nt
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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:10 PM
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48. This thread reads like a purge
Edited on Sat Dec-26-09 02:13 PM by sixmile
Being concerned about trillions of dollars of OUR tax dollars going into Fannie and Freddie or ANY corporation (quasi-public or otherwise) is a legitimate concern.

The LACK of concern makes me concerned.

The hint of impropriety usually leads to the discovery of impropriety - which I do not stand stand for.
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:33 PM
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51. Only 861 posts! Burn sixmile! Burn! Let us purify ourselves in the flames of death! Burn!
OK, so the post makes a lot sense and we should be concerned about the allegations of impropriety, but that's not what we're about here. Burn! Burn! Burn!
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #48
55. Well said sixmile. I hope you have your flame suit on
Be prepared to be called a GOP shithead in 10, 9, 8......
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:34 PM
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53. "Joe Lieberman's a man with a good heart, who cares about the working families of America"
-- Presidential Candidate Barack Obama, endorsing Joe Lieberman for Senate.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 05:12 PM
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57. kick
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