Should Rahm Emanuel be investigated?

[rucky]

Just investigated. Not necessarily convicted. Not necessarily forced to resign - just investigated.

Allegations are outlined (with minimal spin) from the http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-rahm-emanuel-profit-26-mar26,0,5682373.story">Chicago Tribune:

On Emanuel's watch, the board was told by executives of a plan to use accounting tricks to mislead shareholders about outsize profits the government-chartered firm was then reaping from risky investments. The goal was to push earnings onto the books in future years, ensuring that Freddie Mac would appear profitable on paper for years to come and helping maximize annual bonuses for company brass.

The accounting scandal wasn't the only one that brewed during Emanuel's tenure.

During his brief time on the board, the company hatched a plan to enhance its political muscle. That scheme, also reviewed by the board, led to a record $3.8 million fine from the Federal Election Commission for illegally using corporate resources to host fundraisers for politicians. Emanuel was the beneficiary of one of those parties after he left the board and ran in 2002 for a seat in Congress from the North Side of Chicago.

[FLAprogressive]

1. Yes, he should. The DLC spin artists have shifted to the debate to making this about Jane Hamsher.

and not Rahm and his dirty dealings.

[rucky]

2. True. It's unfortunate that Hamesher & Norquist are taking up the cause.

And not Eric Holder. What's he done, anyways? Anything?

Maybe we should be asking for his resignation?

[Bodhi BloodWave]

4. Could have something to do with that he has been under investigation 3 times

already on it, and nothing has been found. That of course assumes the thread i read here on du a short while ago is accurate(but if it is, then how many more times should Rahm be investigated for the same thing)

[rucky]

11. That would be a valid reason to vote "no"

[KittyWampus]

5. DLC Spin Artists? Are you an elf? A rightwing agitator posing as a progressive?

[FLAprogressive]

6. The newest talking point fresh from the fax: Anyone claiming to be a progressive is a paid shill.

[KittyWampus]

20. I AM A PROGRESSIVE. You, let's get this straight, do not tell me I am not.

[IndianaGreen]

28. Do you support Obama's protection of torture memo author John Yoo?

I could rattle several issues in which Obama Administration has taken a reactionary position to gage your progressive bons fides.

[movonne]

13. I think he should be...but will never happen...we are not even investigating

bush and cheney...

[ProSense]

3. Oh look, people wasting time hyping the Hamsher/Norquist pipe dream. n/t

[rucky]

10. I'm actually trying to cut through the bullshit.

Given the allegations, should he be investigated?

If you want a valid reason to say no, you could say something like "The government has already acted on these and other allegations in 2008"

[ProSense]

16. There is no validity in Hamsher's BS claim

Jane Hamsher and Grover Norquist are trying to revive something that has already been investigated, with hearings held during the Republican-controlled 108th Congress by the House SUBCOMMITTEE ON COMMERCE, TRADE, AND CONSUMER PROTECTION when guess who was chair?

FREDDIE MAC: ACCOUNTING STANDARDS ISSUES RAISED IN THE DOTY REPORT

And it was already investigated:

Freddie Mac Misrepresented Income, Says SEC

[dkf]

22. Looks like he is guilty judging by article number two

Guilty guilty guilty.

[ProSense]

26. Wishful thinking,

but feel free to keep on thinking that for however long.

[girl gone mad]

32. You mean he was investigated by the same agency that cleared Madoff of any wrongdoing..

despite being handed specific and detailed information from highly reputable sources alleging that Madoff was running a massive Ponzi scheme.

You'll pardon those of us who don't simply take the SEC's word for things.

[TwilightGardener]

7. For what, exactly? What are we looking for? Need more facts.

[murielm99]

8. Minimal spin? From the Tribune, one very republican

"newspaper?"

Illinois has lots of scandals and corruption. The Trib gives minimal coverage to the republican scandals and overhypes the Democratic ones.

[IndianaGreen]

12. How come the Democrats never investigated Mitch McConnell and his wife Elaine Chao?

Perhaps because politicians in both parties are corrupt!

[Greyhound]

9. Investment bankster = thief. Any questions? n/t

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[WeDidIt]

15. Too late, it was already investigated

There was no there there.

[Don Caballero]

17. I voted no

Why waste valuable resources on such an idiotic idea? People don't like Rahm for reasons I do not understand. Some of the hate may be related to anti-Semitism or just blind hatred of anyone connected with our President.

[Karmadillo]

18. No! He's on our team! Let's use the "look forward" thing we used to get Bush & Cheney off the hook.

nt

[LWolf]

19. If it will help get rid of him, yes. nt

[cliffordu]

21. Yawn.

This has so little to do with the triage of problems we have in this country........

Whitewater, anyone???

Where to next, is there a Vince Foster in the wings???


This shit makes me sick.

[grytpype]

23. How retarded do you have to be to Whitewater your own President?

There is something seriously wrong with the libs.

Cons for all their many faults have more sense than the leftbaggers.

[Sebastian Doyle]

24. Yes, but Grover the unfriendly monster shouldn't have anything to do with it.

Truth is, those two douchebags should be sharing a cell in prison, since they are both enablers of treason.

[peace13]

25. When I see Shooter in jail then I will recommend we have look see at Rahm.

Face it, until the * scene is jailed and sentenced we have no law and no need to run the Dems up the pole. Why waste the time? Spend the energy helping those in need.

[juno jones]

27. Let the evidence lead where it will.

Investigate him.

If he is a pure little lamb, What does he have to hide? :evilgrin:

edit to add: All other discussion of the personalities involved with this; ie Jane and Grover, is distractionary bullshit , you might as well fixate on WWF or Brangelina for all the difference it makes.

[joeunderdog]

29. We'll put him in the same cell with Liddy, Rove, Delay and the rest of the Establishment Boys

What? You mean they decide who goes to jail? Oh. :shrug:

[lamp_shade]

30. I can only laugh at the Rahm Pile-On and I suspect Rahm is too. n/t

[cali]

31. Those are some awfully weak and vague accusations. Also, how many

people sat on the board with Emanuel? If he's investigated, shouldn't they be also?