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mcablue Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 01:58 PM
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Let's not spread misinformation regarding the Charlie Sheen domestic violence arrest
Edited on Sat Dec-26-09 02:01 PM by mcablue
Women often recant their stories after accusing their partners of domestic violence, presumably out of fear of losing the man whom they still love. It's a weakness well known by those familiar with cases like these. Some women don't even report domestic violence at all.

Second point: The fact that a woman was drunk when she made a domestic violence allegation does not mean she wasn't assaulted.

It's irresponsible to say at this point that Charlie Sheen was "falsely accused" of domestic violence. Why then does he have a hearing on February 8th? Has he been cleared? No.

Patience. Celebrity websites are not judges or juries.

I believe the number of people who thought the census worker in Kentucky committed suicide originally was near zero. And look what happened. He committed suicide, according to authorities.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:10 PM
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1. Even a hearing won't tell us what happened.
We will never know.
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:11 PM
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2. Charlie Sheen is an idiot 9/11 Troofer
It must be considered in regards to this incident because his mind is clearly clouded. He believes that Bush was in charge of an inside job conspiracy theory on 9/11.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 03:30 PM
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8. Maybe Charlie Sheen's wife was assaulted by robot planes from the future? n/t
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 04:20 PM
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11. Here's some more "idiot 9/11 Troofers"
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/Counterterrorism_Veterans.pdf

Sibel D. Edmonds – Witness before the 9/11 Commission.

Angelo Codevilla, PhD – Former U.S. State Department Foreign
Service officer specializing in U.S. intelligence operations in
Western Europe.

Edward Peck – Former Deputy Coordinator, Covert Intelligence
Programs, U.S. State Department.

A Pentagon eye-witness and a former member of the staff of
the Director of the National Security Agency, Lt. Col. Karen
Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret), is a severe critic of
the official account of 9/11.

Maj. John M. Newman, PhD, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Executive
Assistant to the Director of the National Security Agency.

Raymond McGovern, 27-year veteran of the CIA, who chaired
National Intelligence Estimates during the 1970’s.

William Christison, a 29-year CIA veteran, former National
Intelligence Officer (NIO) and former Director of the CIA's Office
of Regional and Political Analysis

Melvin Goodman, PhD, is another former senior CIA official who
calls the 9/11 Commission Report a “cover-up” and who signed
the petition to reinvestigate 9/11.

Robert Baer is another well-known CIA veteran who has
questioned the official account of 9/11.

"I am forced to conclude that 9/11 was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war,”
wrote well-known intelligence analyst Robert David Steele in 2006 in a review of the book, 9/11
Synthetic Terror by Webster Tarpley.

David MacMichael, PhD – Former Senior Estimates Officer at
the CIA with special responsibility for western hemisphere affairs
at the CIA's National Intelligence Council.

Lynne Larkin – Former CIA Operations Officer who served in
several CIA foreign stations before being assigned to the CIA's
Counter-Intelligence Center.

Edward J. Costello, Jr. – Former Special Agent,
Counterespionage, FBI. Former Judge pro tem., Los Angeles,
CA.

John M. Cole – Former Intelligence Operations Specialist, in the
FBI’s Counterintelligence Division.

The list goes on, but you get the idea.

Any ONE of these "idiots" is infinitely smarter than you.

But hey, keep your head firmly inserted in your ass. It'll keep your ears warm.
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Don Caballero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 05:07 PM
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13. Most of those people did not sign anything supporting 9/11 conspiracy theories
These lists are never verified and idiotic 9/11 truthers latch onto them. Bush is way too stupid to pull off the terrorist attacks. At least President Obama is actively searching for the Al Qaeda in Af/Pak who killed all those Americans.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 06:50 PM
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14. But they don't buy the "official fairy tale" either.
Pop your head out. Grab some fresh air. Read what they had to say.

Of course, you dismiss that list because it doesn't say what you want it to.

So might think that YOU'RE the "idiotic" one for swallowing Bush's b.s. hook, line and sinker.

It's not like he had a motive for allowing the attack or anything.....

(Iraq war, Patriot Act, never-ending "War on Terror", etc..)

It's not like certain government agencies never planned a "false flag operation" before either.....

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods)

Nope, 9/11 was just a HUGE, lucky windfall for the Bushies.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 04:25 PM
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12. Most likely B* was the best president ever
:silly:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:18 PM
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3. Before I believe that Sheen assaulted his wife
I will need to see a criminal conviction in a court of law. Until then, he is innocent until or unless proven guilty.

You can thank the Duke Lacrosse "rape victim" and the Hofstra University "rape victim" for my skepticism.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:36 PM
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6. One can believe in someone's guilt before a court verdict is rendered
But its bad form at best to proclaim it from the mountaintops as fact.

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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:32 PM
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4. Why then does he have a hearing??? answer...
Colorado DV law requires a hearing and the charges cannot be simply Dropped by the "victim".

Additionally the DV law is abused regularly by BOTH men and Women to "gain the upper hand" in relationship dissolution. Divorce lawyers routinely advise charging the other before Divorce papers are filed.

One tactic used is to throw the belongings out on the front lawn... then call the Owner of the belongings to come over to retrieve them... then immediately call Police saying the person coming over Threatened the 911 caller. then having the "retriever" arrested for DV "trespassing" (simply retrieving their belongings.)


A newspaper did an investigation into abuses a few years ago. of the five part series... the last two articles were never printed having found ample evidence of people abusing the DV Law. Kept out of the paper by a lawsuit.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 02:35 PM
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5. Why should he get a pass..When others are convicted in a court of public opinion
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 03:04 PM
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7. HEY FOLKS......his wife recented. She was loaded
he wasnt'.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 03:40 PM
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9. You started a thread for THIS?!
Edited on Sat Dec-26-09 03:42 PM by TexasObserver
To remind everyone that sometimes women who are abused recant?!

I like Charlie Sheen fine, but it's not a stretch to think he gets drunk and excessive at times.
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bik0 Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-26-09 03:58 PM
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10. It's also irresponsible to say Charlie Sheen "beats up wife"
It works both ways - both are innocent until the facts are known.

We may never know the actual truth. The wife may be recanting to save her pre-nup agreement...

"After the Christmas morning incident, where Mueller told sources Charlie tried to choke her, the actor's representatives quickly moved into damage control mode. Sources close to Mueller told RadarOnline.com that Team Sheen pressured her to recant and even suggested the exact words she should use!

Late on Christmas day Mueller did recant her version of the violence -- after contact with Charlie's reps.

Mueller wants out of the marriage and has a prenuptial agreement. Sources told RadarOnline.com that money was discussed in connection with not further damaging Sheen's already tattered reputation."

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/exclusive-charlie-sheen-wife-was-pressured-recant-will-file-divorce

But Sheen ifs firing back...

"Charlie Sheen is not going down for the count. The sitcom star is telling friends wife Brooke Mueller grossly "exaggerated" their fight when she called 911 Christmas morning.

Brooke Mueller Claimed Charlie Sheen Choked Her

She was angry at her husband of less than two years, and "wanted to teach him a lesson by calling the cops," a source told RadarOnline.com.

Within hours, Brooke had already changed her story with the Aspen police, several sources have told us."

Sheen's version of events is that they were arguing about Brooke's drinking with Charlie standing firm that the mother of his twins had been partying too much. Brooke went postal at the idea that her husband was critical of her mothering skills."

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/sheen-strikes-back-says-wife-made-story-out-anger


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