Firedoglake readership grows 12% last week, 39% last month

[mcablue]

Let's continue to make public our positions on her views, negative or positive. It helps a very progressive website get traffic. That's always a good thing.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/firedoglake.com?p=tgraph&r=home_home

[Odin2005]

1. K&R for Jane.

[NJmaverick]

2. Nothing progressive about helping right wingers

[Way2go]

3. My sentiments too. Thanks. nt

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[KittyWampus]

15. Sarah Palin?

[FLAprogressive]

16. +1

[MH1]

18. Yeah, Grover Norquist is a woman too

oh wait ...

[Blue_In_AK]

31. Sarah Palin is really in a class all her own,

and shouldn't be considered in the same category as Hillary and Jane Hamsher. I'm serious.

[roguevalley]

45. I can't agree more, Blue.

[NJmaverick]

36. Why are you listing Sarah Palin?

[amborin]

20. Like when Obama selected Pastor Rick Warren & praised Reagan

[NJmaverick]

23. That comment had as an errie similarity to the old "well it's OK, Bill Clinton did blah blah blah"

which was the right wingers defense for all republican wrong doing for over a decade.

[amborin]

25. hmmm....what if you substitute "Obama" for "Clinton" that's what you seem to be saying

[inna]

21. She is not "helping right wingers". Please stop disinformation.

[NJmaverick]

24. Ahh yes she is as the Right Wingers are trying to take down the White House

and the Democratic party

[OregonBlue]

27. Nothing Progressive about helping slime like Norquist

[amborin]

39. like having Rev Rick Warren?

[NJmaverick]

40. How did that help right wingers?

All it did was get them to disown Warren.

[amborin]

41. it gave them a seat at the table big time; it validated them

[NJmaverick]

42. A seat where? There is no policy being made at an inauguration

[amborin]

43. the larger point: it legitimizes them

[midnight]

4. Jane is smart......

[Atman]

6. And Grover is a genius.

Fuck them both. But not with MY dick.

.

[TheWebHead]

5. any publicity is good publicity

at least when it comes to website traffic.

[Way2go]

7. Jane knows where the big money is and she's going for the gold.

Ever heard of media whores online?

[roguevalley]

46. Jane isn't about money. if you knew about her, you would know that.

[ChiciB1]

8. Very Good... No Matter What, She's At Least Trying To Work...

FOR THE PEOPLE!

[snagglepuss]

11. Exactly. nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

9. Jane is gonna wake up with a lot of fleas from sleeping with that dog Norquist.

There is no excuse for allying herself with the likes of him, for any reason. Maybe FDL is getting more traffic, but none of it will come from me.

[mcablue]

12. Depends how often she agrees with Norquist

I don't think agreeing with investigating a corporatist centrist will translate into "fleas," unless she turns pro-abortion, pro-war and others.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

17. Would you feel any differently if her alliance for the same purpose

was with Karl Rove or Dick Cheney? Because Norquist is no better, and his motive, like theirs, has always been to bring down liberals and Democrats in any way possible. Hamsher may wish to get rid of Rahm Emanuel (and I'm no fan of his, either). Fine. But you can take it to the bank that for Norquist, getting rid of Emanuel is merely a means to embarrass, weaken and defeat Obama and his administration. I would hope Hamsher does not intend any such thing.

[mcablue]

29. Rove's support wouldn't make me change my mind about Rahm and Freddie Mac

You assume that I like Norquist. I don't like him at all. But I don't blind myself by looking at motives. I know what MY motives is in regard of asking for an investigation. I want to know what an inspector general has been blocked from reviewing Emanuel's stint there.

[inna]

30. They simply COSIGNED a letter, for god's sakes.

It's not like she is adopting his agenda in any way, shape or form. They're still ideological enemies, and Norquist can go drown himself in a bathtub, as far as she (and all progressives) are concerned.

The hysteria behind this is ridiculous. Not as if liberal groups haven't cosigned letters with Norquist before.

Wonder why all the people having hissyfits over FDL's co-signing a letter with Grover Norquist never freaked out when he co-signed a letter with the Campaign for America's Future? And doing it again in the space of one month, even?

Where were they when he worked with the ACLU? Or Alec Baldwin?

Are they saying that only certain kinds of lefties are allowed to do outreach to righties?

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Phoenix Woman's diary :: ::

Funny how nobody went after Alec Baldwin for appearing with Grover Norquist at a PFAW panel in opposition to the "Patriot" Act.

Or how nobody went after the ACLU when they joined forces with Norquist to oppose CAPPS airport spying, national ID cards, and to support medical marijuana usage.

It's also funny that none of these people criticized President Obama when he does fox-in-henhouse moves like nominating conservative foes of the Legal Services Corporation to be on the board of the LSC.

What does that tell you?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/12/23/818630/-Oh-Noes!-Campaign-for-Americas-Future-works-w-Norquist!Eeeeek!

[mcablue]

33. No, Inna. "alliance" sounds more damning and long-term. Jane haters prefer "alliance"

"cosigners" sounds mild; that's why they choose to ignore it.

We are to believe that they agree in many things and that they will hold hands forever.

[Donnachaidh]

10. learning from the pukes did so much for folks on this board

Dissent is a dirty thing to junior jackboots.

[mcablue]

13. A DU poll indicates that we see the Jane/Norquist call for investigating Rahm as a help to us

is DU a right-wing site? Around 70% in that poll was for investigating Rahm.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7326744&mesg_id=7326744

[mmonk]

19. I remember some wisdom that was passed to me years ago.

In order to make someone see your position, you must first convince them that you and them share some common purpose on earth instead of a world made up completely of us vs them. Then you can state your case unfiltered. Jane is trying to practice that no matter how painful and no matter how many will not like it or understand it.

[amborin]

22. +10 someone wisely posted: "it's not left vs right anymore, it's bottom vs the ruling elite top"

[snagglepuss]

34. self delete

[Thickasabrick]

26. +1 Thank you for passing it along. We should all try to find some

common ground.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

28. It'll be a cold day in Hell when I find common ground with Grover Norquist.

[ProSense]

32. "Jane is trying to practice that no matter how painful "

Jane Hamsher is an idiot. She is losing credibility. An increase in traffic due to sensationalism isn't permanent.

[Blue_In_AK]

35. Oh, yes, I like that.

+++

[Pirate Smile]

37. It's like rubber-necking at a car wreck. I'm sure a lot of RW'ers enjoying watching it.

By RW'ers, of course, I mean Jane's allies.

[stopbush]

38. Looks like Grover is providing a link.

[trumad]

44. Trains wrecks are always interesting to look at.