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[ProSense]

Sen. Lamar Alexander: Calls Health Care Bill 'Historic Mistake'

Senator Jim Bunning: Misses Historic Health Care Reform Vote

Anti-Health Bill Teabagger Dumps Tree: Dems ‘Ruined Christmas’ With Senior ‘Genocide’



:rofl:

[Truth2Tell]

1. ...

[ProSense]

2. Poor thing. n/t

[varelse]

6. Poor little Democratic majority

:'(

[ima_sinnic]

8. lol!

[depakid]

3. Ironically (and quite unintentionally)- the teabaggers have latched on to a grain of truth

Other than the fact that the death panels won't be for seniors- but for everyone else who's required to subject their health care (and their physicians orders) to arbitrary decisions by claims analysts, claims examiners and utilization nurses, etc. whose salaries they not only pay out of pocket- but are subsidized by the US treasury!

Folks are just going to love that....

[ProSense]

4. "Other than the fact that the death panels won't be for seniors- but for everyone else"

Ah, praising teabaggers.


:rofl:

[depakid]

5. Just telling it like it is- rather than lying about what insurers do (and will continue to do)

[ProSense]

7. No, you're

speculating because you have nothing else.

[ima_sinnic]

9. "speculating" that insurance co's are going to gouge us and decide our fates?

what's the matter with that poster, anyway? sheesh!
everybody knows how humanitarian they are, and how interested in the public good and the health and welfare of We The People. Why, I heard that all the insurance co CEOs were voluntarily resigning their "jobs" as a result of this bill and taking unpaid positions as advisors to community health centers (since they're such "experts" in "health"), and other insurance co execs were voluntarily taking a 90% pay cut, and even offering to have their companies pay taxes! because they feel so "funny" about taking the taxpayers money for absofuckinglutely NOTHING!

[ProSense]

10. "what's the matter with that poster, anyway? "

Suffering from the denial and an inability to come to grips with change.

[depakid]

12. LOL- you really are divorced from any sense of reality

Even though it's clear that you've neither studied how health care actually works in the states- nor have any experience working in the field- one would at least expect a prolific poster to be familiar with the widespread abuses that were (or rather ought to have been) the driving force behind health care reform.

To those who've been (and will continue to be) victims of arbitrary and capricious insurance decisions, they aren't the slightest bit speculative- and there are a LOT more folks out there like that than you think.

Few of them are going to be happy once they realize what this legislation does- and doesn't do.

[ProSense]

13. "Even though it's clear that you've neither studied how health care"

This from someone who doesn't even understand the bill and is left making speculative statements.

Your entire criticism is based on the bill coming back to haunt the Democrats.

[depakid]

23. Wrong on that count- although it certainly will come back to haunt the Dems

Kind of a lose/lose in that respect.

Also said in the sense that America's public discourse has become so irrational and discordant that people can no longer even agree on what facts are!

One side hollers about death panels and socialism- even as the other side denies and downplays insurance abuses, and argues for incentives that proliferate increasingly expensive junk insurance (just as the Enzi Bill did) and which do nothing to reign in medical bankruptcies.

Kafka would be right at home in 21sr Century America.

[WeDidIt]

11. You know the whiners have jumped the shark

when they side with the teabaggers.

:rofl:

[ima_sinnic]

14. better the teabaggers than the war criminals and corporate suck-ups picking our pockets (nt)

[FrenchieCat]

15. Is it better? For whom and for what?

[WeDidIt]

16. You're onj the wrong site

This is DEMOCRATICUnderground.

[ProSense]

17. "better the teabaggers " They love you too. n/t

[Forkboy]

19. Better people don't side with any of them.

They all lose credibility that way.

[ima_sinnic]

22. good point--I don't "side" with them at all, but seek to expose hypocrisy & self-righteousness

they know something's wrong and are being screwed like the rest of us--they're misguided by the same divisive forces playing us against each other.

[ProSense]

24. Yeah right!

:rofl:

[ima_sinnic]

26. so they''re not misguided?

since you've already indicated you're okay with torture, with having your bank account cleaned out by insurance companies, with having the president be "powerless" under the mighty Joe Lieberman (apparently the most powerful man on the planet now) and completely removed from his own Justice Dept. (according to you), and with anything the "CONstitutional scholar" and his administration do (the administration that is apparently "rogue" and completely out of his control, according to you) contrary to Democratic ideals and principles, you come across as not very bright. That impression is strengthened each time you post. DU has its own village idiot!

[ProSense]

28. "since you've already indicated you're okay with torture"

Since you're proving your absurdity...

[ima_sinnic]

29. convenient that the thread I'm referring to

has been disappeared, isn't it?

we all saw your cockamamie defense of this:

. . . After hearing passionate arguments from the Obama Administration, the Supreme Court acquiesced to the president's fervent request and, in a one-line ruling, let stand a lower court decision that declared torture an ordinary, expected consequence of military detention, while introducing a shocking new precedent for all future courts to follow: anyone who is arbitrarily declared a "suspected enemy combatant" by the president or his designated minions is no longer a "person." They will simply cease to exist as a legal entity. They will have no inherent rights, no human rights, no legal standing whatsoever -- save whatever modicum of process the government arbitrarily deigns to grant them from time to time, with its ever-shifting tribunals and show trials. . . .

http://www.chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/1887-dred-scott-redux-obama-and-the-supremes-stand-up-for-slavery.html

you were called out then, and you will be again, for defending that, "sir." your posts are less meaningful and have less substance than Brittney Spears' diary.

[phasma ex machina]

18. "Jumped the shark" actually "jumped the shark" when MSM bought it.

So the 'net cabal created "Bone the Fish" as a successor.

:rofl:

[WeDidIt]

20. I would never say Firebaggers have "boned the fish"

"Choked on the pretzel", maybe, but never "boned the fish".

[depakid]

25. Please tell us that you're not really that shallow...

and that your reading comprehension isn't that deficient- might give us some small hope that Democrats aren't as juvenile and imbecilic as their counterparts on the right.

[leftstreet]

21. +1

[Uncle Joe]

27. Regarding Republican Senators' opposition to this bill.

crocodile tears
 
–noun
1. (used with a plural verb ) a hypocritical show of sorrow; insincere tears.

crocodile tears

An insincere show of sympathy or sadness; crocodiles were once thought to “weep” large tears before they ate their victims: “Don't shed any crocodile tears for Fisher; I know you were responsible for his firing.”

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/crocodile+tears