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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:03 AM
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CIA Bashes Bush
Edited on Sun Dec-27-09 11:05 AM by Jeffersons Ghost

A Spy Speaks Out


Former Top CIA Official On "Faulty" Intelligence Claims
(CBS) When no weapons of mass destruction surfaced in Iraq, President Bush insisted that all those WMD claims before the war were the result of faulty intelligence. But a former top CIA official, Tyler Drumheller — a 26-year veteran of the agency — has decided to do something CIA officials at his level almost never do: Speak out.

He tells correspondent Ed Bradley the real failure was not in the intelligence community but in the White House. He says he saw how the Bush administration, time and again, welcomed intelligence that fit the president's determination to go to war and turned a blind eye to intelligence that did not.

"It just sticks in my craw every time I hear them say it’s an intelligence failure. It’s no intelligence failure. This was a policy failure," Drumheller tells Bradley. Drumheller was the CIA's top man in Europe, the head of covert operations there, until he retired a year ago. He says he saw firsthand how the White House promoted intelligence it liked and ignored intelligence it didn’t: Drumheller says, "The idea of going after Iraq was U.S. policy. It was going to happen one way or the other."
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:09 AM
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1. He's essentially calling Bush a liar. Hear that, DOJ? Oh, right, your fingers are stuck in your ears
and you're going "La la la la la I can't hear you" upon orders from DL.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:10 AM
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2. K & R nt
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 10:11 PM
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20. thanks for reading my stuff
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 10:43 PM
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21. Thanks for posting this.
Good news has been out there, but posted far too infrequently.

:toast:
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Laf.La.Dem. Donating Member (924 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:17 AM
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3. Sad to say
THIS IS ABOUT EIGHT YEARS TOO LATE:mad:
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:18 PM
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8. the CIA and other agencies said this kind of thing from the beginning...
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:29 AM
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4. If it was the CIA's fault, why did Bush give Tenet the Medal of Freedom?
If we went to war on the basis of faulty intelligence, then heads should have rolled -- starting with Tenet's.

The plain fact of the matter is that Tenet became a team player with the White House and was finally let go because he had to be the fall guy. The Medal of Freedom was for services rendered.
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:31 AM
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5. Poppy's way of telling Jr. he fucked up. n/t
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:35 AM
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6. Here's a bunch links from LynnTheDem backing this up, many of them from 2002.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:15 PM
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7. We did here too on DU - in REAL TIME
was the most amazing thing I was ever a part of. Powell's speech in front of the UN was debunked in real time with no facet of Bull Shit undeniably debunked with 24 hours. Additionally we had conclusive proof the Bush Admin was "Cherry Picking" the intelligence. It was treasonous the American media allowed Bush to get away with blaming the CIA

Equally as treasonous for not publishing the many reports of exactly "How" they were firing any analyst that refused to toe the company line
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:20 PM
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9. Aw. You don't say? Really? Whodathunkit.
K&R
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:26 PM
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10. But but but...he "inherited" the worst terrorist attack in history nt
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:41 PM
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12. at the risk of...
Bordering on a conspiracy theory, one could suggest that he was an integral part in ORCHESTRATING 9/11.
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:12 PM
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13. Well I KNOW that but Matlin just said he "inherited" 911 this morning
Edited on Sun Dec-27-09 01:19 PM by live love laugh
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divideetimpera Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 12:31 PM
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11. good to see 60 Minutes is still kicking ass
it's one of the few good things about the mainstream media
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:26 PM
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22. Ed Bradley has been dead since November 2006
Just sayin
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:15 PM
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14. Still true, but the Drumheller story is nearly four years old.
A Spy Speaks Out - 60 Minutes - CBS News
Apr 21, 2006 ... Former Top CIA Official On "Faulty" Intelligence Claims. Font size; Print; E-mail; Share; Page 1 of 3. By Daniel Schorn ...
www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/21/.../main1527749.shtml
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:27 PM
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15. thanks....
I didn't see the date... HERE'S SOMETHING MORE CURRENT

tonight:
Preview: Out Of The Shadows
Lara Logan interviews former CIA operative Henry Crumpton about the fall of the Taliban and al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Sunday, Dec. 27, at 7 p.m. ET/PT.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 01:46 PM
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16. Nothing's changed since 9/11. The "bad guys" in this game are almost all our own creation
Edited on Sun Dec-27-09 01:58 PM by leveymg
So it was with "Curveball", and the "Iraqi" mobile WMD labs, which may never have existed in Iraq, but "replicas" were definitely constructed by Steven Hatfill under a CIA contract in Ft. Detrick, Maryland. It's also the case with al-Qaeda bad guys, who so often turn out to be "our bad guys", or are working for the Saudis, anyway.

Such is the case, again, with the latest airstrike in Yemen that apparently has reportedly killed the radical U.S.-born cleric, Iman Anwar al-Awlaki, who was the religious counselor to the Flt. 77 hijackers in San Diego and again in Northern Virginia, who then popped up yet again this year (after the feds let him leave the country after 9/11), as the e-mail Iman to the Ft. Hood shooter.

This follows the underlying pattern of attempts to get rid of the AQ agents provocateur and double-agents.

The victim of the first CIA drone attack in 2003 was a US citizen. Google Ahmed Hijazi (aka, Kamal Derwish, Kamal Darwish, Kamal Darwesh)

Hijazi (Derwish), born in Buffalo, NY, 1973, was a primary conduit for organizing the "Lackawana Five", a group of US citizens who traveled to Pakistan and Afghanistan shortly before the 9/11 attacks. He was also involved in the USS Cole and an earlier pre-9/11 attack on a US Navy ship in Aden Harbour, Yemen. He had direct foreknowledge of the 9/11 and Cole attack plans, and connects Abu Zubaydeh and the Flt. 77 hijacker/USS Cole attack organizer Nawaf al-Hazmi. He and his little cell in Boston were under nearly constant FBI surveillance for years as they moved in and out of the country on CIA and GID contracts in Bosnia, Kosovo and Chechnya. Like the mysterious Iman, he always seemed to transit the US freely, just in the knick of time. Then, afterwards when attention falls on him, death from above. Silence.

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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 02:13 PM
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17. Not only the interlligence, but the link is "faulty".to!
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 02:16 PM
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18. Ed Bradley is dead... I knew something was off about this when I saw that.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 06:37 PM
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19. that's a pretty good clue LOL
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-27-09 11:27 PM
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23. This story is VERY old
It aired in April 2006. Ed's been dead since November 2006
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 07:52 AM
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24. Bush created the Office of Specail Plans to circumvent the CIA then blamed CIA...
for the mistakes created by the Office of Special Plans.
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