Ted Kennedy got on the No Fly list, but not a guy whose dad reported him as possibly dangerous?

[eridani]

http://www.legitgov.org/northwest_bomb_plot_oddities.html

In 2008, the ACLU estimated the US 'No Fly List' to have grown to over 1,000,000 names -- heck, even Cat Stevens and the late Senator Ted Kennedy were on it -- and it continues to expand. But, suspected terrorist Abdul Farouk Abdulmutallab, who was curiously able to obtain military-grade high explosives --80 grams of PETN (Gee, where'd he get that?) -- managed to escape airport security and detonate his underwear bomb!

In April 2009, American authorities reportedly refused an Air France flight from Paris to Mexico entry into US airspace because a left-wing journalist writing a book on the CIA was on board. Hernando Calvo Ospina, who works for Le Monde Diplomatique and has written on revolutionary movements in Cuba and Colombia, figured on the US authorities' 'no-fly list.' Air France said the April 18 flight was forced to divert to the French Caribbean island of Martinique before continuing its journey (telegraph.co.uk).

Got it? Write a book critical of the CIA -- you cannot fly. Carry explosives (allegedly from Yemen) on board when the US is trolling for an excuse to invade and occupy Yemen for its oil -- yes you can! According to CNN, the terror suspect's father tried to warn authorities. CNN reported: The father of a man suspected in a botched terror attack aboard a Northwest Airlines flight contacted the U.S. Embassy in Nigeria recently with concerns his son was planning something, a senior U.S. administration official said Saturday. The father -- identified by a family source as Umaru Abdul Mutallab -- contacted the U.S. Embassy "a few weeks ago" saying his son, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, had "become radicalized," the senior administration official, who is familiar with the case, told CNN.

And yet, Abdulmutallab was not obliged to undergo any additional airport screening layers, prior to boarding for the last leg of his journey to Detroit.

[HipChick]

1. a secondary screening with a pat-down would not detect

any material stored anally..or around the crotch..

[clear eye]

12. But a simple chemical "puffer" screening machine would have.

This is very odd.

[FrenchieCat]

2. Strange....Dick Cheney will be saying the same thing tomorrow!

Good job!

[cherokeeprogressive]

3. So who will be lying? eridani or Big Dick? n/t

[Hannah Bell]

5. yeah, eridani = heretic. burn her. (sarcasm) this is nuts.

[havocmom]

14. and going about trying to shut people up by suggesting ties to the unsavory

is SO dick(cheney)-like in it's self

Great job by both of us! :rofl:

[Hannah Bell]

4. my friend is on the nfl. his name is the same as a supposed IRA terrorist. What makes it ridiculous

is, his name is something common as "James Kelly". So I'm presuming every other "James Kelly" is on the list, too.

It's just ridiculous. He's over 65, never been out of the US in his life, always gets hassled.

[eridani]

6. And his dad didn;t contact the American embassy in Ireland to warn about him?

[Hannah Bell]

7. no, cause he's not a terrorist, just a retired guy with a common irish name.

[eridani]

9. I was being sarcastic. n/t

[Hannah Bell]

10. i understood that. just reinforcing the idiocy.

[eridani]

8. Is PETN easy or hard to get?

Legitgov.com implies that it is difficult to get, but I don't know whether or not that is true.

[mmonk]

11. That is correct. The no fly list was a political measure, not a safety measure.

Do you think we are a constitutional representative democracy or something?

[havocmom]

13. another DUer hit on how easily HS could have missed the father's warning

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7339932

[Edweird]

15. That's cause he did it wrong. If he had said his son was coming to fight for * war crimes trials....

But that's what happens when you play politics with public safety.

[Missy Vixen]

16. THANK YOU

It was the first thing I said to DH when CNN reported the guy wasn't on the "no fly list": "Teddy Kennedy was on the no-fly list, but this guy wasn't, even after his own dad turned him in?"

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