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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 08:32 AM
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Looks Like We're Secretly Spreading The War To Cambodia
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 08:33 AM by MannyGoldstein
After the Gulf-of-Tonkin-esque flaming-butt incident over Detroit last week, it looks like we're spreading the war into a new theater:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/28/world/middleeast/28yemen.html?_r=1&ref=global-home">U.S. Widens Terror War to Yemen, a Qaeda Bastion (nytimes.com)

I sure hope that keeps the dominoes from falling! In any case, I'm teaching my 10-year-old to start speaking Canadian, just in case.

(Not sure how many on DU are old enough to understand the snarky references... I apologize in advance if this is incomprehensible to some.)
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 08:35 AM
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1. Saudi Arabia and Yemen itself are already doing this. It's a state of chaos. nt
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 08:35 AM
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2. Whaddya talkin' 'bout?
We're "saving" these countries.

:shrug:


Save the Country (The Fifth Dimension)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTuwAo5sUik&fmt=18

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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 08:40 AM
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3. That was said about Cambodia and Laos too.
the new version of the Domino Theory.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 08:45 AM
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4. in my mind i can't study war no more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19bUcrWwXJg

by laura nyro, one of my favorites since forever
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 08:53 AM
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5. "Yuppers." - Idiomatic Canadianese Expression of Agreement
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 08:54 AM by SpiralHawk
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:08 AM
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6. We. Never. Learn.
That should be a huge sign posted in the orbit of the Earth so that beings from other worlds who come along this way receive fair warning.


Humans: Not too bright, actually.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:11 AM
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7. Americans: not too bright actually
A lot of humans are quite bright actually but Americans, now that is an entirely different story.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:21 AM
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9. oh, not really... humans have repeated the same pattern for thousands of years
across the planet, across dynasty, kingdom and empire.

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:16 AM
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8. We've Been There For A While...
Yemen is a basketcase like Pakistan. It has a corrupt government dominated by the military that has little control in the vast hinterlands and have looked the other way toward all types of terrorist movements over the years. IRC, there were several raids and drone attacks in Yemen over the past 5 years...and the country has been a big recruting ground for Islamic nationalist groups for decades. If anything, putting the screws to this country is long overdue.

The only thing that appears incomprehensible is your "logic" here...not sure how some nutcase trying to blow up a plane has anything to do with what is going on in Yemen...other than to try to hit a "poutrage" button.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:23 AM
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10. FYI
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:25 AM
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11. Thank You...
Here's the rub...the term "Al Queda" has become so generic now...and easily bantered as a corporate media device to amp up fear that it blurs how many different groups there are and how many crazies have glammed onto the name to get their 15 minutes.

Cheers...
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 01:18 PM
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18. yes
which highlights the folly of our Afghanistan escalation

the instability in Yemen also obtains in Somalia, and many other areas...

all "breeding grounds"

but our approach---war----only fuels anti-west hatreds

if we're going to spend all this $$$$, why not apply it differently?!

take the "three cups of tea" route
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:30 AM
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12. the us news organizations received clearance to report about yemen
this war has been going on for some time now but no one reported on it. the economy is in the crapper so it`s time to scare the american people!

i was given a coat that was sewn in "communist vietnam"...so what was the reason for that war?
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StarfarerBill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:38 AM
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13. How much war can we wage? Never enough.
Too much profit and plunder to be had, you see.
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Way2go Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:08 AM
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15. Just be sure to call it anti-terrorism operations. nt
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StarfarerBill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:11 AM
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16. Nah; "counterinsurgency" sounds so much more...surgier.
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 11:24 AM by StarfarerBill
:puke:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 09:41 AM
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14. comparing the Gulf of Tonkin to the crotch bomber is so stupid you SHOULD be a laughingstock
that DU'ers seem to be happily cosigning such a silly thought.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-28-09 11:47 AM
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17. I recommend listening to some interviews with Dr. Webster Tarpley.
Edited on Mon Dec-28-09 12:46 PM by Maat
They are very instructive on why it would be in the best interests of certain transnational corporations, and the governments (and governmental advisers) that serve them, to destabilize Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan and the surrounding areas. Disruption of energy corridors, to be used by the wrong people, is key. Destabilization of other Arab and Muslim countries is also part of the plan, as well as identifying and setting up certain bogeymen. It's also in the best interests of some for Americans to be very afraid, and willing to allow their fundamental rights to be degraded.

Guns and Butter interviews:

http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/56841
http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/57004

His recent shows on "World Crisis Radio:"
http://www.gcnlive.com/archive.php?program=worldCrisis

He's also been interviewed on Russia Today.

Here's a couple of great quotes from a Tarpley article.
*****************quote**************************
Obama Declares War on Pakistan

http://tarpley.net/2009/12/11/obama-declares-war-on-pakistan/#more-831

Webster G. Tarpley
December 11, 2009

Obama’s West Point speech of December 1 represents far more than the obvious brutal escalation in Afghanistan — it is nothing less than a declaration of all-out war by the United States against Pakistan . This is a brand-new war, a much wider war now targeting Pakistan , a country of 160 million people armed with nuclear weapons. In the process, Afghanistan is scheduled to be broken up. This is no longer the Bush Cheney Afghan war we have known in the past. This is something immensely bigger: the attempt to destroy the Pakistani central government in Islamabad and to sink that country into a chaos of civil war, Balkanization, subdivision and general mayhem. The chosen strategy is to massively export the Afghan civil war into Pakistan and beyond, fracturing Pakistan along ethnic lines. It is an oblique war using fourth-generation or guerrilla warfare techniques to assail a country which the United States and its associates in aggression are far too weak to attack directly. In this war, the Taliban are employed as US proxies. This aggression against Pakistan is Obama’s attempt to wage the Great Game against the hub of Central Asia and Eurasia or more generally.

....

Regarding Iran, George Friedman, the head of the Stratfor outlet of the US intelligence community recently told Russia Today that the great novelty of the next decade will be an alliance of the United States with Iran directed against Russia. In that scenario, Iran would cut off oil to China altogether. That is the essence of the Brzezinski strategy. It is urgent that the antiwar movement in the United States regroup and begin a new mobilization against the cynical hypocrisy of Obama’s war and escalation policy, which suprasses even the war crimes of the Bush-Cheny neocons. In this new phase of the Great Game, the stakes are incalculable.

http://tarpley.net/2009/12/11/obama-declares-war-on-pakistan/#more-831
**************Endquote*************



Then, people can make up their minds about what is really going on - and if certain events are coincidental or not.:) It might also be a good idea to couple this with a reading of Z-big's book, "The Grand Chessboard" -http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2006/10/119973.pdf
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